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Yes? 41 57.75%
No? 11 15.49%
Dont really care either way? 14 19.72%
Just not interested in NFL anymore? 5 7.04%
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Old 09-30-2016, 09:14 AM  
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Poll: Has the NFL become to politically correct for your taste?
I keep reading about how the NFL is losing viewers/fans.I'm wondering if its because of all the rule changes that has seemed to make the game less interesting? Or is it because of all the political actions that you don't agree with and you just don't watch it anymore or fail to become interested.
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Old 09-30-2016, 05:40 PM   #106
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Not fixed, but slanted towards an outcome.
That's why the Chiefs need stars.


I hope Jamaal explodes, because he is a guy the media actually pays attention to.
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Old 09-30-2016, 05:44 PM   #107
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Peters and Kelce as well. Most of the country seems to know those guys. NFL Network thinks Peters vs. Brown will be the match up to watch. This despite the fact that the Chiefs may not even do it that way for most of the game.
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Old 09-30-2016, 05:58 PM   #108
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You really fail to understand this: The NFL is GUARANTEED $1.5 BILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR with Direct TV

Why in the ****ing world would they take their business elsewhere, which doesn't include guarantees, in a time of declining viewership?

You're ASSUMING that more people would subscribe but it's just that: An assumption.

You can order the most basic DTV package for $29.99 and get Sunday Ticket FREE or you're charged $259-$359 each year with the most basic package.

If more people WANTED Sunday Ticket, they could purchase it.
$1.5B alternative:
-Bid contract out. Recover a lot of the $1.5B back
-Significantly increase paid subscribers (market to 100M households instead of 20M)
-Offer sponsorship/advertising on streaming site
Most obvious: significantly increase viewership. Increases fan loyalty which creates fan spending $'s. Charge more $ for advertising/sponsorship.

There is absolutely a tipping point where $1.5B isn't worth restricting options for fans. You continue to push installing a physical dish and committing to a year-long contract when 15% of Americans are cutting the cord... that's not consistent with reality today. If the NFL wants to stay relevant, they have to offer online streaming to a mass audience. I don't know how that's even a question.
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Old 09-30-2016, 06:18 PM   #109
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$1.5B alternative:
-Bid contract out. Recover a lot of the $1.5B back
-Significantly increase paid subscribers (market to 100M households instead of 20M)
-Offer sponsorship/advertising on streaming site
Most obvious: significantly increase viewership. Increases fan loyalty which creates fan spending $'s. Charge more $ for advertising/sponsorship.

There is absolutely a tipping point where $1.5B isn't worth restricting options for fans. And the idea that you continue to push installing a physical dish and committing to a year-long cable contract when 15% of Americans are cutting the cord, it's not consistent with reality today. If the NFL wants to stay relevant, they have to offer online streaming to a mass audience. I don't know how that's even a question.
Good ****ing god. To understand economics?

No other entity is going to outbid DTV's $1.5 billion a year deal, period, ESPECIALLY when viewership has declined by 20% in one year. The NFL is taking in the dough, regardless of whether or not their broadcast partners are losing money.

Also, DTV is getting closer to dumping the dish and going over the internet. Regardless, if DTV decides it's in their best interest to offer Sunday Ticket at $200 a pop (which is considerably lower than the current $359), they would need 7.5 million subscribers - nearly 4 times as now - to reach the breaking even point of $1.5 billion.

Again, it's a horseshit assumption.
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Old 09-30-2016, 06:24 PM   #110
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I think the biggest problem with the NFL now is a lack of parity, which is ironic for a league that was supposed to be built on the idea of "Any Given Sunday".

Think about how many zombie franchises are out there now, that essentially have been non-factors for several years with no relief in sight.

Miami, Buffalo, Tampa, Cleveland, Atlanta, etc.

In the AFC you've had the same 3-4 teams represent the conference in the Super Bowl during the past 15 years or so.
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Old 09-30-2016, 06:26 PM   #111
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Goodell's liberal agenda is killing the NFL. Time for the owners to put a new commissioner in. One that is concerned about football and football alone.
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Old 09-30-2016, 06:36 PM   #112
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Why do people hate Goodell? Hate the owners, Goodell only does what he's told.
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Old 09-30-2016, 06:42 PM   #113
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The main issue is old farts always bitching about how things used to be better. Everyone thinks everything is the best when they first starting following it...sports, music, whatever. If a few idiots not standing for the anthem or that they now check players for concussions ruins it for you, then watch something else. Just shut up already.
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Old 09-30-2016, 06:44 PM   #114
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Goodell's liberal agenda is killing the NFL. Time for the owners to put a new commissioner in. One that is concerned about football and football alone.

I don't give a shit about Goodell one way or the other, but this is stupid.
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Old 09-30-2016, 06:48 PM   #115
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I think the biggest problem with the NFL now is a lack of parity, which is ironic for a league that was supposed to be built on the idea of "Any Given Sunday".

Think about how many zombie franchises are out there now, that essentially have been non-factors for several years with no relief in sight.

Miami, Buffalo, Tampa, Cleveland, Atlanta, etc.

In the AFC you've had the same 3-4 teams represent the conference in the Super Bowl during the past 15 years or so.
Atlanta has been to 2 NFC champ games since 2004.
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Old 09-30-2016, 06:49 PM   #116
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Goodell's liberal agenda is killing the NFL. Time for the owners to put a new commissioner in. One that is concerned about football and football alone.
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Old 09-30-2016, 06:57 PM   #117
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Good ****ing god. To understand economics?

No other entity is going to outbid DTV's $1.5 billion a year deal, period, ESPECIALLY when viewership has declined by 20% in one year. The NFL is taking in the dough, regardless of whether or not their broadcast partners are losing money.

Also, DTV is getting closer to dumping the dish and going over the internet. Regardless, if DTV decides it's in their best interest to offer Sunday Ticket at $200 a pop (which is considerably lower than the current $359), they would need 7.5 million subscribers - nearly 4 times as now - to reach the breaking even point of $1.5 billion.

Again, it's a horseshit assumption.
When did I say anyone has to outbid DTV? Take a lower bid... I'd say ability to market to 80M more households could easily recover the difference. And it's not just subscribers. More viewers = higher ratings/sponsorships/ad $'s. Loyal fans spend more $'s.

If ratings are down by 20% I'd be really damn concerned about winning those fans back instead of justifying a contract that restricts fan options.

The DirecTV contract was (*edit.. Wasn't bad) bad to begin with. But it's really bad today in a world where fans are watching significantly more shit online or streaming. DirecTV/ATT can and should offer Sunday Ticket to a mass audience. But until they do, the NFL will keep taking a bigger hit until the 2 sides adjust to reality. Goodell's Twitter deal suggests he gets it.
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Old 09-30-2016, 07:20 PM   #118
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I don't care about the political - its a free country and people are entitled to their beliefs - it is the rule changes that I don't like. They have taken all the fun out of the game. No celebrations, taunting penalties for stupid little shit, etc. Hell, these are grown men playing a violent sport, but they can't wag a finger at an opposing player? What, is the NFL afraid it will hurt the player's feelings? Maybe they need counselors on the sideline....
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I keep reading about how the NFL is losing viewers/fans.I'm wondering if its because of all the rule changes that has seemed to make the game less interesting? Or is it because of all the political actions that you don't agree with and you just don't watch it anymore or fail to become interested.

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