Chiefs Alex missing reads - Page 10

Aspengc8 · 12:10 PM

Just a few sample clips from the Steelers game.

First series with a little curl/flat concept. Slot sits right in the middle for a easy 5 yars, instead of forcing to JC.

Spoiler!

Next play, it doesnt look like Alex gets any depth on his sprint out. Conley comes free over the middle.

Spoiler!

Bottom of screen conley 1v1, gotta take that shot

Spoiler!

If alex keeps his eyes down field kelce is wide open

Spoiler!

I will add some more as I get more time.

Discuss Thrower · 10-09-2016, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Smith is fast. Credit where it's due.

Physically speaking, he's got everything you need to excel in this league. He has a weak-ish arm but you don't need a cannon to make it work.

His issues are 100% mental.

Is it fair to call him a real "lunchpail" kind of guy?

ThaVirus · 10-09-2016, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Is it fair to call him a real "lunchpail" kind of guy?

LOL

He's a good athlete.

I don't give a shit if he's white or not.

O.city · 10-09-2016, 03:19 PM

He plays the position scared. At times, it's worked here, but this year, it seems to have regressed.

He's the 4th best qb in the afc west. It's pathetic

**New World Order** · 10-09-2016, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

He plays the position scared. At times, it's worked here, but this year, it seems to have regressed.

He's the 4th best qb in the afc west. It's pathetic

He may be the 5th.

Hell, it's possible he's the 6th.

RobBlake · 10-09-2016, 03:24 PM

you can easily tell its mental walls that prevent alex from succeeding consistently at a high rate.

**RealSNR** · 10-09-2016, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth

Not a bad projection. It would be sweet if they went back and ended up punching Pittsburgh in the nuts on their home turf. It's so far from now lots of potential for both teams to look very different.

We're not doing shit unless our defense returns to what it was last year. Alex and the offense ain't gonna make up the difference

milkman · 10-09-2016, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

He's been shitty, but that's not really true. For the average 2 sacks per game he is responsible for, his athleticism manages to avoid another 2 per game where many would have be sacked.

He avoids phantom pressure, so he either leaves the pocket and makes plays with his legs when it really isn't necessary for him to do so, or he runs himself into sacks.

He also holds the ball too long and often finds himself unable to escape as a result.

More than 50% of the sacks he takes are on him.

**Anyong Bluth** · 10-09-2016, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Alex has always taken unnecessary sacks. That's why his offensive lines always run block well but mysteriously appear to be horrible in pass protection.

He doesn't anticipate guys breaking open, doesn't look down field with any regularity, isn't willing to pull the trigger on down field or tight throws on a consistent basis, and stares down the pass rush.

Run blocking and pass protection are 2 different animals.

If Pittsburgh's rush sucked so much that they had 2 sacks coming into the game, and sacked Alex 3 times, that's a good indication that the Chiefs line isn't and hasn't been very good.

Yes, Alex is on the hook for roughly 10% of the total sacks given his style of play.

Still, both guard positions have been a revolving door with guys filling in. Fisher is playing at a B grade at best in comparison to his play at the end of last season. Schwartz has been terrible and I can't figure it out. Least talked about, but it needs to be said is how much Morse has regressed. His size, pass protection, point of attack, and ability to seal and sustain were all questions before the draft.

There's no continuity along the line at every other spot, and I suspect that problem is exacerbating the 3 regular starters who are all lining up next to someone who they don't have familiarity with and possibly trying to do too much to help cover the backups butt!

That's the unique predicament of both guards being out in that it means there's no continuity across the entire line.

Alex needs to execute, but let's not pretend his protection has been really good like many expected, and actually a big disappointment to this juncture. The glimmer of hope is that the situation can improve quite a bit by fixing their mistakes and the return of the starters.

O.city · 10-09-2016, 08:12 PM

His style of play leads to that though. His offensive Linea have always struggled to pass block, because in part of alex.

He isn't decisive, leaves the pocket to phantom pressure and misses guys because of it.

Teams don't respect him to beat them from the pocket so they play super aggressive in a 15 yard box.

ThaVirus · 10-09-2016, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth

Run blocking and pass protection are 2 different animals.

If Pittsburgh's rush sucked so much that they had 2 sacks coming into the game, and sacked Alex 3 times, that's a good indication that the Chiefs line isn't and hasn't been very good.

Yes, Alex is on the hook for roughly 10% of the total sacks given his style of play.

Still, both guard positions have been a revolving door with guys filling in. Fisher is playing at a B grade at best in comparison to his play at the end of last season. Schwartz has been terrible and I can't figure it out. Least talked about, but it needs to be said is how much Morse has regressed. His size, pass protection, point of attack, and ability to seal and sustain were all questions before the draft.

There's no continuity along the line at every other spot, and I suspect that problem is exacerbating the 3 regular starters who are all lining up next to someone who they don't have familiarity with and possibly trying to do too much to help cover the backups butt!

That's the unique predicament of both guards being out in that it means there's no continuity across the entire line.

Alex needs to execute, but let's not pretend his protection has been really good like many expected, and actually a big disappointment to this juncture. The glimmer of hope is that the situation can improve quite a bit by fixing their mistakes and the return of the starters.

The line hasn't paved the way for huge Mack truck-sized holes like we all had hoped but they've been good enough to succeed.

The running game has been good despite Alex's usual rushing yardage added and yet the lass protection sucks? Again? For the 12th year in a row for this ****ing guy?

At some point you have to lay blame in the correct spot. He hasn't just been so unlucky to get crap offensive lines over his career. Truth is, he doesn't do his lines any favors.

**Anyong Bluth** · 10-09-2016, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

His style of play leads to that though. His offensive Linea have always struggled to pass block, because in part of alex.

He isn't decisive, leaves the pocket to phantom pressure and misses guys because of it.

Teams don't respect him to beat them from the pocket so they play super aggressive in a 15 yard box.

Hence, I lay 10% of those sacks at Alex's feet. Let's not act like Alex is so fundamentally different back there to deflect from the lines culpability. Giving them a pass on 10% of the sacks is more than fair and the rest are a fair representation of the continuing up and down erratic protection issues.

It being erratic definitely leaves the lingering question in Smith's head of will I get decent protection this week? It's not an excuse, because he still has to step up and perform better, including watching the film and correcting his footwork and positioning when releasing the ball. But, it's not an imagined case of there being a chronic issue of protection breaking down on a reoccurring basis, and sporadically more than it should be in year 4.

Lack of consistency has definitely gotten in his head, and he or the staff need to do a better job of mentally preparing better. See a sports psychologist, I don't know? They're not paying me to so it's not my job.

dj56dt58 · 10-10-2016, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Freudian slip

I read this just after I farted and laughed for a bit

**Lzen** · 10-10-2016, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Fish

This is what really frustrates me. Once Alex hits the scramble button, he gets tunnel vision like a mofo.

Kelce wide open. Alex just has to stop and chuck it.

This reminds me of Alex early last season. He needs to pull his head out of his butt.

**Lzen** · 10-10-2016, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Maclin > D Jax
Kelce > Celek/Ertz
Conley > Cooper
Hill is damn sure faster and probably better than their #3 was

I think Foles could do some awesome stuff if given the chance.

There's just too much damn speed and talent on this offense to be playing conservative football.

Maclin > than D Jax is debatable. I'd say about even. Kelce > than their TEs for sure.

Conley, I think can be better than Cooper. We just have had much chance to see as of yet because of mediocre to bad QB play. The one glaring difference is that out Oline is not playing very well. Alex has played poorly but some of that is due to the poor play at Oline. And no, I'm not an Alex apologist by any means. I just tell it like I see it.

Aspengc8 · 10-10-2016, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter

Aspen, I haven't re-watched the Steelers game yet but did it seem like it took us a painfully long time to call outside zone?

Yeah, and not just the Pitt game. In almost every must run situation (2nd and 10 ex), he goes to the bubble right away if he gets a 3x2 look. They could have 6 in the box and he will still throw the bubble.

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Aspengc8 Veteran Join Date: Dec 2005 Casino cash: $9950632	Alex missing reads Just a few sample clips from the Steelers game. First series with a little curl/flat concept. Slot sits right in the middle for a easy 5 yars, instead of forcing to JC. Spoiler! Next play, it doesnt look like Alex gets any depth on his sprint out. Conley comes free over the middle. Spoiler! Bottom of screen conley 1v1, gotta take that shot Spoiler! If alex keeps his eyes down field kelce is wide open Spoiler! I will add some more as I get more time. Last edited by Aspengc8; 10-05-2016 at 12:10 PM..
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-765936	He plays the position scared. At times, it's worked here, but this year, it seems to have regressed. He's the 4th best qb in the afc west. It's pathetic
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RobBlake Banned Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $10011127	you can easily tell its mental walls that prevent alex from succeeding consistently at a high rate.
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10-09-2016, 08:12 PM	#144
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-765936	His style of play leads to that though. His offensive Linea have always struggled to pass block, because in part of alex. He isn't decisive, leaves the pocket to phantom pressure and misses guys because of it. Teams don't respect him to beat them from the pocket so they play super aggressive in a 15 yard box.
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