Chiefs Time for Dee Ford haters to eat some crow - Page 8

RunKC · 10-30-2016, 02:25 PM

7 sacks in 7 games this year. Technically 8 if not for Tamba being a dumbass last week.

11 sacks in 14 games started in his career.

Beast

Marcellus · 10-30-2016, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1

Defense won the game today & Dee Ford was a key part in it.

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**jjchieffan** · 10-30-2016, 09:05 PM

I wonder how much Dadi is bulking up during the season? He is getting experience as the season progresses. Can you imagine the pass rush come January. With a healthy Houston, A much improved Ford. Jones and Dadi with a full season under their belsts and Hali still playing at a high level, not to mention Poe commanding double teams in the middle? We could have an unstoppable pass rush.

Direckshun · 10-30-2016, 09:14 PM

You typically don't bulk up over the season. These guys are steadily losing weight throughout the year.

You bulk up in the offseason.

And I gotta say, a fully healthy Houston with Ford across from him and a second-year Dadi rotating in sounds hella sexy.

**Baby Lee** · 10-30-2016, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The defense won a game in which the Chiefs scored 30 points, with TWO QB's and three running backs?

Did you watch or are you quoting stats?

Both sides played well enough to make the win comfortable. Neither were mandatory due to the overall performance.

That said, squelching the threat of Luck going off was a bigger accomplishment than squelching the 'threat' of a dominant Colts defensive effort.

jspchief · 10-31-2016, 06:32 AM

Sacking Luck the is the equivalent of a participation trophy for nfl pass rushers. But I will say this is the first game where I really noticed Ford doing more than just trying to beat his man with speed. He even had a nice bull rush. I hope I was wrong and he turns out to be good. Will be huge if he can replace Hali next year.

Aspengc8 · 10-31-2016, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

Is Tamba even outsnapping Zombo this year? I think Ford will get more plays than Tamba.

No matter what you think of Ford or what players he has beaten, this is hilarious. 0.5 sack less than Miller. Calling Ford a bust was always a massively premature thing to do. Even 2 years isn't exactly a lot of time.

I'm all for Ford improving- and he has been. Dadi may be in the same situation.. gain a few pounds in the off-season like Ford did this year, and you may see even more of him next year. Like I said earlier, you are going to see a rotation based on what the offense is showing for its personnel. In situations where there are 2 RB or multiple TE's, I think you will see more Hali. Otherwise going to see more Ford. To be honest, this is a GOOD situation to be in, with this much talent rotating.

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RunKC · 10-31-2016, 08:00 AM

If Houston comes back to even 80% of his normal talent this year then QB's are going to struggle immensely.
Ford is collapsing the outside pocket forcing QB's to step up and Poe/Jones are playing so well pushing the interior 5 yards back consistently.

I loved Sutton's plan of getting Nicolas snaps when we're up by double digits. There's no need to use Tamba as much in those situations.
Speaking of..I really liked what I saw from Nicolas. The young man keeps flashing when he gets opportunities.
He's only played like 25 snaps and has a QB hit, batted pass and a pressure.

DJ's left nut · 10-31-2016, 08:34 AM

The guy's making a difference playing the wrong position.

Imagine putting a G at RT and having him play well - that's what we're doing with Ford right now. The way we use the SOLB in this defense is so much different than the Will that it really is like playing a different position rather than just on a different side.

When Houston comes back and Ford's able to play where he should have been playing his entire career, he's going to be even better.

I said the dude was a 10 sack player and frankly, I may have underestimated him. And as I said last week, the 'gets his against bad OL's' argument is just the worst of the false canards. That's what they all do. Take away the 'get fat' games that even the best have against poor opponents and suddenly 15 sack guys become 8-9 sack guys pretty quickly.

I've been saying it for 2 years but everything this guy did in college and every one of his measurements made him as good a prospect as Dante Fowler. There's nothing on tape or on film to demonstrate a decided difference between the two. Just like Dorsey managed to get a less heralded version of Trae Waynes in Phillip Gaines, he did it here with Dee Ford.

The kid can play.

Aspengc8 · 10-31-2016, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

The guy's making a difference playing the wrong position.

Imagine putting a G at RT and having him play well - that's what we're doing with Ford right now. The way we use the SOLB in this defense is so much different than the Will that it really is like playing a different position rather than just on a different side.

When Houston comes back and Ford's able to play where he should have been playing his entire career, he's going to be even better.

I said the dude was a 10 sack player and frankly, I may have underestimated him. And as I said last week, the 'gets his against bad OL's' argument is just the worst of the false canards. That's what they all do. Take away the 'get fat' games that even the best have against poor opponents and suddenly 15 sack guys become 8-9 sack guys pretty quickly.

I've been saying it for 2 years but everything this guy did in college and every one of his measurements made him as good a prospect as Dante Fowler. There's nothing on tape or on film to demonstrate a decided difference between the two. Just like Dorsey managed to get a less heralded version of Trae Waynes in Phillip Gaines, he did it here with Dee Ford.

The kid can play.

He rushed from the left @ auburn as well, no?

DJ's left nut · 10-31-2016, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Aspengc8

He rushed from the left @ auburn as well, no?

But with his hand on the ground.

It isn't where he's standing but rather what he's asked to do. The strong side in this scheme has a ton of coverage and edge support responsibility. He didn't have that at Auburn because he was used as a pure 3-point speed rusher. That area of his game was incredibly underdeveloped because of it.

If he's on the weak side, his responsibilities will be more in line with what he was asked to do at Auburn. Though really, it's not even a necessity at this point as he's gotten much better in both of those areas with playing time (because...duh).

But when he's given more pass rush responsibility and a chance to focus on that area, he'll be an even more disruptive presence. He's earned the starting role ahead of Hali, IMO.

**Bowser** · 10-31-2016, 09:26 AM

It's almost like we either don't know how to be happy after a convincing win or just can't stand being happy after a convincing win. Jesus, lol.

O.city · 10-31-2016, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

It's almost like we either don't know how to be happy after a convincing win or just can't stand being happy after a convincing win. Jesus, lol.

I was thnking about that last night.

We went in a thoroughly dominated a top 5 offense on the road. I mean, it was worse than the score showed, it was an ass kicking.

We don't know how to react to that.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 10-31-2016, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

I don't have to eat anything. Took long enough

That's where I'm at. His criticism was earned. Running away from the ball and shit. Glad he's arriving. He's going to be beloved here once teams have to start using resources to cover Justin Houston.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 10-31-2016, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by COchief

Suck on Sorenson's big fat white dong while he continues to outplay your bitch boy Berry on a weekly basis you racist sack of shit.

Such an angry little possum!!!

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