Football At the halfway point of 2016, who is the best team in the NFL? - Page 6

tk13 · 12:02 AM

Still one game to go on Monday night, but we're pretty much at the halfway point of the season. Only 5 AFC teams have a winning record. The NFC isn't doing too much better. Believe it or not, the Chiefs have the 4th best record in the league. Early favorites Pittsburgh and Minnesota have faltered, Dallas is hot, Oakland is contending for the first time in a while, and the Patriots just traded away one of their most talented defenders. Who is the best team in the NFL? Poll coming.

Mile High Mania · 11-07-2016, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

It's really not. Indy had the same with the AFC South. Packers with NFC North. Patriots won/loss record outside the division is about the same as inside.

It's Belichick and Brady. People underrate Belichick as GM. Like MASSIVELY underrate him. His salary cap maneuverings and draft pick manipulations are amazing. Does he HIT on a higher percentage of draft picks than most? Nope. But he builds a system that takes advantage of every possible method to acquire talent, and always has enough, plus Tom MF Brady.

Solid points. Those divisions have been marred with far too many bad coaching decisions, knee jerk firings and crappy drafts.

Bills, Jets, Dolphins, Vikings... over the last 15 years, how many new QBs have those teams had? Cutler and Stafford have been around a while, but they haven't lifted those teams up.

Legit QBs (Manning, Brady, Rogers) have owned those divisions. It's all about the QB and the lack of having one.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 11-07-2016, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Yep, the whole team sucks.

Thanks for the conversation!

Dude, don't put words in my mouth.

Houston is our best player and Maclin was our best offensive weapon last year. Game changers.

That would be like NE not having Gronk and Chandler Jones. Not the dudes you just named. Get real.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 11-07-2016, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Dude, don't put words in my mouth.

Houston is our best player and Maclin was our best offensive weapon last year. Game changers.

That would be like NE not having Gronk and Chandler Jones. Not the dudes you just named. Get real.

Easley got cut a year later = trash.

If we lost two OL at ANY time, this place would be flipping shit.

19 guys on IR. That's only 35% of the active roster. 35% of next man up.

This place bitches and moans when a guy or two are out.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 11-07-2016, 05:42 PM

This team doesn't need Charles at this point.

We need a healthy Maclin, Ware, and Houston. Just like last season, that all-pro crew healthy can beat anyone.

Rasputin · 11-07-2016, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Solid points. Those divisions have been marred with far too many bad coaching decisions, knee jerk firings and crappy drafts.

Bills, Jets, Dolphins, Vikings... over the last 15 years, how many new QBs have those teams had? Cutler and Stafford have been around a while, but they haven't lifted those teams up.

Legit QBs (Manning, Brady, Rogers) have owned those divisions. It's all about the QB and the lack of having one.

Indy has a solid quarterback that for sum fluke reason the Colts ended up having the #1 pick and luxury to draft a prospect like Andrew Luck but they don't have a clue to how to build a team around him and they are wasting his talents. I don't feel sorry for him or Colts but to say all you need is a quarterback I think there is much more to it but I want a quarterback from the draft to build a successful team around. The Colts also probably over paid this talent so they handcuffed themselves to protect their assets with quality line and give him weapons.

I think they are better off than we are in terms of quarterback but if they can't protect him their investment wont be paying off in dividends. I think it's important get the quarterback first and build your team around him but having the luck to have a guy there is a big part of finding that quarterback. Although developing quarterbacks is something the Patriots must be good at because they have plugged in other quarterbacks in Brady absence and still find success so this is all confusing me other than I want to draft a Quarterback.

MIAdragon · 11-07-2016, 05:50 PM

We're the best team?! Some serious homer antifreeze going around this evening.

Rasputin · 11-07-2016, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

This team doesn't need Charles at this point.

We need a healthy Maclin, Ware, and Houston. Just like last season, that all-pro crew healthy can beat anyone.

I think we can move away from Maclin as our younger receivers contribute and get playing time that gets them better so I'm not so worried about Maclin except for depth we need depth as it's always important. I want Wilson and Conley to get more opportunities thrown their way and #10 too.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-07-2016, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

If we lost two OL at ANY time, this place would be flipping shit.

What? LDT and Morse were out with concussions for several games. Fulton played left guard and center. Stephenson played LT, LG and RT. Jah Reid played RG and RT. Fisher played RT and LT.

There was ZERO continuity on the offensive line last year, some of which bled into this year. There was a reason why the Chiefs offense was so anemic in Houston back in September and that's because Fulton started for Ehinger and Reid started for LDT.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-07-2016, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon

We're the best team?! Some serious homer antifreeze going around this evening.

SI has the Chiefs ranked #3, behind the Pats and Cowboys.

Face it: The Chiefs are a good team.

oaklandhater · 11-07-2016, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

This team doesn't need Charles at this point.

We need a healthy Maclin, Ware, and Houston. Just like last season, that all-pro crew healthy can beat anyone.

Well we were pretty healthly when we played the Texans and they rocked us.

oaklandhater · 11-07-2016, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

SI has the Chiefs ranked #3, behind the Pats and Cowboys.

Face it: The Chiefs are a good team.

our offense will let every team we play hang with us that's the issue I have with this team.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 11-07-2016, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

SI has the Chiefs ranked #3, behind the Pats and Cowboys.

Face it: The Chiefs are a good team.

No argument that we're a good team.

I guess we'll find out in 6-7 weeks if we're better than good.

MIAdragon · 11-07-2016, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

SI has the Chiefs ranked #3, behind the Pats and Cowboys.

Face it: The Chiefs are a good team.

The question wasn't "are the Chiefs good" that's proven, it asked if they were the best, can't see the argument for that. IMO it's a distant 3rd at best.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-07-2016, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by oaklandhater

Well we were pretty healthly when we played the Texans and they rocked us.

No, they were not. Both starting guards were out that game, hence poor pass protection and very few holes for Ware.

It's not surprising in the least that the holes weren't there yesterday with Ehinger out, who's definitely an upgrade over Fulton.

Hopefully, Mike Person can step in and take over the LG spot from Fulton soon and that he's an upgrade.

Fulton's a statue.

MIAdragon · 11-07-2016, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

No argument that we're a good team.

I guess we'll find out in 6-7 weeks if we're better than good.

Smart man.

View Poll Results: Who is the best team in the NFL?
Dallas (7-1)	6	4.17%
New England (7-1)	121	84.03%
Oakland (7-2)	3	2.08%
Kansas City (6-2)	11	7.64%
Atlanta (6-3)	0	0%
Denver (6-3)	2	1.39%
Seattle (4-2-1)	0	0%
Houston (5-3)	1	0.69%
NY Giants (5-3)	0	0%
Minnesota (5-3)	0	0%
Washington (4-3-1)	0	0%
Detroit (5-4)	0	0%
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TigeRRUppeRRcut Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: 19th Hole Casino cash: $10004725	This team doesn't need Charles at this point. We need a healthy Maclin, Ware, and Houston. Just like last season, that all-pro crew healthy can beat anyone.
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