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Old 11-08-2016, 09:58 AM   #1
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When you have to cherry pick a stat there and re arrange the chart to move a guy down, yeah, I don't put alot of stock in that
For the grand sum of $15 million and 1 pick spent in the first 2 days of the draft, the Chiefs have assembled one of the top 10 OLs in football.

I'd say Dorsey has kicked some serious ass in putting the OL together.

As for Fisher specifically, not much more to be said than has already been said. You never notice him out there and that's a good thing. I think he's improved a great deal in the run game and in the passing game he's held his own. You'd like to see a little more improvement there. The good news is that pass pro is largely technique, especially with a guy that has the athleticism of Fisher. I expect he'll continue to get better in the passing game.

I don't think he's going to turn into a Joe Thomas caliber, first team all-pro guy but he's going to be a steady top 10 LT and that's a fine use of that pick coming out of a truly shit-tastic draft.

He's a good football player who's finally learning to use his physical gifts to his advantage. A plus player that's improving is pretty damn good to have around.
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Old 11-08-2016, 10:06 AM   #2
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For the grand sum of $15 million and 1 pick spent in the first 2 days of the draft, the Chiefs have assembled one of the top 10 OLs in football.

I'd say Dorsey has kicked some serious ass in putting the OL together.

As for Fisher specifically, not much more to be said than has already been said. You never notice him out there and that's a good thing. I think he's improved a great deal in the run game and in the passing game he's held his own. You'd like to see a little more improvement there. The good news is that pass pro is largely technique, especially with a guy that has the athleticism of Fisher. I expect he'll continue to get better in the passing game.

I don't think he's going to turn into a Joe Thomas caliber, first team all-pro guy but he's going to be a steady top 10 LT and that's a fine use of that pick coming out of a truly shit-tastic draft.

He's a good football player who's finally learning to use his physical gifts to his advantage. A plus player that's improving is pretty damn good to have around.
And there are two different questions. Was Fisher the best choice? Was Fisher the talent that you hope for with the 1.1?

I don't see how the first question is even a debate.

As for the 2nd, yeah you would love to get Joe Staley talent at 1.1. It didn't happen. At this point though, you move on and appreciate the talent and don't fret over where he was taken. It was the luck of the draw for KC. They got a good player. They didn't get a no doubt, best LT in the league like you dream of with the 1.1. It happens.

At least they made the right choice in the draft. There are a ton of busts in the top of that draft considering their draft position. We could have one of them, which would hurt us at their position potentially and the LT position.
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Old 11-08-2016, 10:48 AM   #3
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And there are two different questions. Was Fisher the best choice? Was Fisher the talent that you hope for with the 1.1?

I don't see how the first question is even a debate.

As for the 2nd, yeah you would love to get Joe Staley talent at 1.1. It didn't happen. At this point though, you move on and appreciate the talent and don't fret over where he was taken. It was the luck of the draw for KC. They got a good player. They didn't get a no doubt, best LT in the league like you dream of with the 1.1. It happens.

At least they made the right choice in the draft. There are a ton of busts in the top of that draft considering their draft position. We could have one of them, which would hurt us at their position potentially and the LT position.
Yeah but as you've noted, question 2 is largely irrelevant.

You can only work with the hand you're dealt. Would it have been nice to have pocket aces in that draft? Sure - but Dorsey got rags and managed to do alright anyway. That's all you can ask.
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Old 11-08-2016, 10:07 AM   #4
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For the grand sum of $15 million and 1 pick spent in the first 2 days of the draft, the Chiefs have assembled one of the top 10 OLs in football.

I'd say Dorsey has kicked some serious ass in putting the OL together.

As for Fisher specifically, not much more to be said than has already been said. You never notice him out there and that's a good thing. I think he's improved a great deal in the run game and in the passing game he's held his own. You'd like to see a little more improvement there. The good news is that pass pro is largely technique, especially with a guy that has the athleticism of Fisher. I expect he'll continue to get better in the passing game.

I don't think he's going to turn into a Joe Thomas caliber, first team all-pro guy but he's going to be a steady top 10 LT and that's a fine use of that pick coming out of a truly shit-tastic draft.

He's a good football player who's finally learning to use his physical gifts to his advantage. A plus player that's improving is pretty damn good to have around.
This.

Amd this is why you use a 2nd or 3rd round pick in every draft to keep adding talent and depth. If you do that you don't need to shop for olinemen in the frist round and don't need to spend FA cash on them either.
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For the grand sum of $15 million and 1 pick spent in the first 2 days of the draft, the Chiefs have assembled one of the top 10 OLs in football.

I'd say Dorsey has kicked some serious ass in putting the OL together.

As for Fisher specifically, not much more to be said than has already been said. You never notice him out there and that's a good thing. I think he's improved a great deal in the run game and in the passing game he's held his own. You'd like to see a little more improvement there. The good news is that pass pro is largely technique, especially with a guy that has the athleticism of Fisher. I expect he'll continue to get better in the passing game.

I don't think he's going to turn into a Joe Thomas caliber, first team all-pro guy but he's going to be a steady top 10 LT and that's a fine use of that pick coming out of a truly shit-tastic draft.

He's a good football player who's finally learning to use his physical gifts to his advantage. A plus player that's improving is pretty damn good to have around.
the chiefs were losing offensive line talent to FA year after year (Hudson et al.), yet continue to reload. That's a huge credit to Dorsey and his crew.

It's a good reason for the CP idiots to withhold from bitching when we take a Morse in the second.
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