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oaklandhater · 11-18-2016, 02:52 PM

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Is Alex Smith Who We Thought He Is?
Jordan Foote , KC Sports Talk on November 16
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Bob Donnan-USA TODAY Sports
Coming into the season, Chiefs fans were looking for a lot less of this:

And a LOT more of this:

Anyone that has watched Alex Smith play during his 3 and a half years in Kansas City knows that he is a mobile quarterback with playmaking ability. Those same people also know that Smith is not as good at stretching the field compared to other quarterbacks. The eye test gives pretty solid evidence for that. The GIF above shows you the playmaking ability, but also: Alex is stretching the field! With a revamped offensive line, developing receivers and a fantastic RB Core, Alex should be ready more than ever to push the ball down the field, right? Right? Right?

Sadly, statistics aren't on our side. Alex has averaged 6.7 YPA (Yards Per Attempt) this season. Compare this to last year's average (7.4) and you are saying to yourself "Wow! I had no clue he had regressed in the YPA department this season..." The famous eye test sure doesn't do it justice, but our reality is that Alex is throwing the ball shorter than he was last year, which we didn't know was truly possible.

This doesn't mean that "Captain Checkdown" is making a return. This doesn't mean that Alex Smith isn't capable of throwing the deep ball. This simply means that Alex Smith is throwing the ball a shorter distance down the field compared to last season. Now, many factors can contribute to that. Below is a table of Alex's opponent, attempts and yards per attempt.

Opponent
Attempts
YPA
San Diego Chargers
48
7.56
Houston Texans
37
5.03
New York Jets
33
7.18
Pittsburgh Steelers
50
5.74
Oakland Raiders
22
10.18
New Orleans Saints
24
8.92
Indianapolis Colts
19
6.68
Carolina Panthers
38
4.68
7.1 YPA is the NFL Median so far this season, meaning that 7.1 is the middle of the road in terms of YPA. Alex Smith has thrown for above 7.1 YPA in 4 out of 8 games this season, with 4/8 below the median as well. His average in a game OVER YPA is 2.72. When he performs under the median level, he does so at an average of 1.57 YPA. This data may seem meaningless, but there is actually a lot that can be interpreted from it.

2.72 is greater than 1.57. When Alex Smith is stretching the field, he is doing so very well. When he doesn't stretch the field, he does so at a bit better of a distance from the median. He has great moments and bad moments.

Good moment:

Bad moment:

To make a long story short, Alex Smith is what we thought he is. Coming into the season, we wanted him to stretch the field more and make more big plays. He has done so, but there has been no in between. This is just the tip of the iceberg. I am not going to go in depth about how many good defenses he's faced or how his progressions look, etc. but I am going to say this: Alex is who we thought he is, a QB that can make throws on occasion, but can not make them consistently. Stay tuned for more analysis. Until then, here's what we used to put up with:

Reerun_KC · 11-19-2016, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splatbass

He did, and I believe he has. But as long as he is getting successful results (7-2 is pretty damn successful) he isn't going to force any changes. No owner would.

So in you opinion this offense is good enough to take down the likes of new England at foxboro, or Dallas is the Superbowl?

No if the defense does this or this happens. Straight up the chiefs offense in the playoffs. Is it good enough to keep pace and score when needed?

How confident are you in the 2 minute offense?

And what are you basing your opinion on....

oaklandhater · 11-19-2016, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

So in you opinion this offense is good enough to take down the likes of new England at foxboro, or Dallas is the Superbowl?

No if the defense does this or this happens. Straight up the chiefs offense in the playoffs. Is it good enough to keep pace and score when needed?

How confident are you in the 2 minute offense?

And what are you basing your opinion on....

They just win seems to be the popular defense for these type of questions on here lately

Reerun_KC · 11-19-2016, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

They just win seems to be the popular defense for these type of questions on here lately

That's not the question I asked. It's about the offense as a whole.

Rasputin · 11-19-2016, 05:02 PM

Alex Smith is who I thought he is. He is the ultimate mediocre quarterback that the Chiefs could find happened to be another 49er reject & or Joe Montana wanna be project.

What I can say is this team is 2/3 caliber for the Super Bowl defense and special teams but the offense is what is specially challenged and needs a boost. That isn't coming from Alex Smith but it does come from our special teams and defense because that's what sets us up for all them field goals and a touchdown once in a while. That's been the formula to winning this season and much of last season. I don't know if that will be good enough for the Super Bowl but we can take the division at least maybe another playoff win?.

**New World Order** · 11-19-2016, 05:04 PM

And we're letting him off the hook.

Sandy Vagina · 11-19-2016, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

That's not the question I asked. It's about the offense as a whole.

complementary football. Offense + Defense + STs = TEAM

who is doing the heavy lifting? The offense? (22nd in dvoa) LOL hell no.

STs? (5th) and Defense? (9th) Yes, heavy lifting.

This still doesn't mean that the offense is not chipping in for these wins.. albeit, however pathetically they have.

WHO does the heavy lifting after a win? Think anyone should care? I don't.. and keep in mind.. not caring does not equal ignoring or overlooking the weak aspects. It just means that winning comes first.. and hope for strengthening the weak aspects follows along well behind winning.

Can KC win against the best in their house like this? probably not.

... but factor in that WITH Maclin and Houston back, they probably could stay close to where they are in the 3 phases of "lifting" and win it all against the best.

Again.. COMPLEMENTARY FOOTBALL. IN a perfect world, the O + D + STs would all be in the top 5.. but one of them not being top 5 does not mean they don't do SOME THINGS to help the team get those wins.

splatbass · 11-19-2016, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

So in you opinion this offense is good enough to take down the likes of new England at foxboro, or Dallas is the Superbowl?

No if the defense does this or this happens. Straight up the chiefs offense in the playoffs. Is it good enough to keep pace and score when needed?

How confident are you in the 2 minute offense?

And what are you basing your opinion on....

Andy is Andy, but I have never seen an owner with a record as good as ours tell a HC he can't call plays anymore in the middle of a season. It just isn't a reasonable expectation, which was my point.

Discuss Thrower · 11-19-2016, 05:14 PM

Reerun_KC · 11-19-2016, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

complementary football. Offense + Defense + STs = TEAM

who is doing the heavy lifting? The offense? (22nd in dvoa) LOL hell no.

STs? (5th) and Defense? (9th) Yes, heavy lifting.

This still doesn't mean that the offense is not chipping in for these wins.. albeit, however pathetically they have.

WHO does the heavy lifting after a win? Think anyone should care? I don't.. and keep in mind.. not caring does not equal ignoring or overlooking the weak aspects. It just means that winning comes first.. and hope for strengthening the weak aspects follows along well behind winning.

Can KC win against the best in their house like this? probably not.

... but factor in that WITH Maclin and Houston back, they probably could stay close to where they are in the 3 phases of "lifting" and win it all against the best.

Again.. COMPLEMENTARY FOOTBALL. IN a perfect world, the O + D + STs would all be in the top 5.. but one of them not being top 5 does not mean they don't do SOME THINGS to help the team get those wins.

Answer the question..... Can this offense do what playoff offenses need to do to win games.

Enough with the bullshit factors and team shit. Also injuries are part of the game.

Reerun_KC · 11-19-2016, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splatbass

Andy is Andy, but I have never seen an owner with a record as good as ours tell a HC he can't call plays anymore in the middle of a season. It just isn't a reasonable expectation, which was my point.

So can it be counted on in the playoffs? Do you have faith in it to score and keep pace with playoof f teams?

oaklandhater · 11-19-2016, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

That's not the question I asked. It's about the offense as a whole.

No I get that when you ask Real questions about the chiefs offense the most likely answer you will get is they just win or go back to fantasy football.

oaklandhater · 11-19-2016, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splatbass

Andy is Andy, but I have never seen an owner with a record as good as ours tell a HC he can't call plays anymore in the middle of a season. It just isn't a reasonable expectation, which was my point.

in all likely hood we are gonna get bounced out in the 1st playoff game

at what point of finishing worse then 25 overall offense 2 years in a row is Andy gonna have to give up the reins ?

Rasputin · 11-19-2016, 05:38 PM

I don't remember kicking this many field goals in the 90's let alone when Herm was coach.

splatbass · 11-19-2016, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

So can it be counted on in the playoffs? Do you have faith in it to score and keep pace with playoof f teams?

My point has gone completely over your head TWICE. Are you stupid?

Discuss Thrower · 11-19-2016, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

I don't remember kicking this many field goals in the 90's let alone when Herm was coach.

Santos needs 12 more to tie Lowery's 1990 franchise-record for kicks made in a season.

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