Chiefs Bucs abused the defense... - Page 15

**petegz28** · 08:27 AM

I don't care what you have to say about Smith or the offense. The Chiefs defense got absolutely ass pumped by the Bucs. They got one stop because Winston dropped the ball. When the game was on the line they couldn't stop anything. They gave up 5-8 ypc runs all day long. WR's were running around wide open and no one even sniffed Winston's jock.

Blame who you want on offense and there is blame to be had by them and Reid. But the defense killed us today.

**New World Order** · 11-20-2016, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Because that offensive production won the game, totally making his point. Duh!

He always brushes off Alex's lack of yards as meaningless "fantasy football" stats.

Suddenly, it's the most important stat of the day.

**SAUTO** · 11-20-2016, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Chiefs had 2 TD's and the ball inside the 10 2X. We should have scored 4 TD's.

IDGAF about 3rd downs given up by the defense. They gave up 19 points. FFS the NFL average points given up is like 22 PPG.

But we were over the average in third down conversions on offense.

Checkmate.

MeatRock · 11-20-2016, 05:42 PM

Points off turnovers. Hard to win with that along with a bunch of 3 and outs. No chance to keep the Buc's offense off the field and rest the Defense. The offense did nothing to control the game.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 11-20-2016, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited

True or False: Winston sets up his punter to pin us deep in our own end instead of scoring pts, Chiefs win.

You understand field position is part of the game of football and an offense that moves the ball 40 yards down the field puts their team in favorable position regardless if points are scored?

Or do we have special teams there to make sure the owners don't keep all the money to themselves?

Not sure if you are an idiot or just a clay level troll ....or both

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 11-20-2016, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Chiefs had 2 TD's and the ball inside the 10 2X. We should have scored 4 TD's.

IDGAF about 3rd downs given up by the defense. They gave up 19 points. FFS the NFL average points given up is like 22 PPG.

You want the offense to put up points but how much can you expect if the other team controls time of possession 35 to 25 as a result of their ability to create first downs?

**petegz28** · 11-20-2016, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MeatRock

Points off turnovers. Hard to win with that along with a bunch of 3 and outs. No chance to keep the Buc's offense off the field and rest the Defense. The offense did nothing to control the game.

Uh, that's not entirely true. The defense did little to get themselves off the field.

**SAUTO** · 11-20-2016, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

You understand field position is part of the game of football and an offense that moves the ball 40 yards down the field puts their team in favorable position regardless if points are scored?

Or do we have special teams there to make sure the owners don't keep all the money to themselves?

Not sure if you are an idiot or just a clay level troll ....or both

Ok, say we do that every drive do we win or lose?

**SAUTO** · 11-20-2016, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

You want the offense to put up points but how much can you expect if the other team controls time of possession 35 to 25 as a result of their ability to create first downs?

Well I think his post explained how he expected more points scored.

MeatRock · 11-20-2016, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Uh, that's not entirely true. The defense did little to get themselves off the field.

We knew Mike Evans would own whatever corner we had covering outside of Peters. It happened. Defense did themselves no favors, but holding them to FG's was an accomplishment.

KCUnited · 11-20-2016, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

You understand field position is part of the game of football and an offense that moves the ball 40 yards down the field puts their team in favorable position regardless if points are scored?

Or do we have special teams there to make sure the owners don't keep all the money to themselves?

Not sure if you are an idiot or just a clay level troll ....or both

You realize you trade picks and extend QBs to pick up critical 3rd downs and not set up the punter right, or did the lack of oxygen to your brain from your uncle's cock lodged down your throat stunt your development?

Mr. Laz · 11-20-2016, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole

True or false: if Andy Reid doesn't call a TO on 2nd and 11 with the clock running, TB doesn't kick a FG at the end of the first half.

Isn't that what i just said?

That was my point, are you agreeing with me?

Beef Supreme · 11-20-2016, 05:48 PM

Make no mistake, nobody thinks the defense played great today. They did not play well. They still held the opposing team to 19 points. The offense didn't step up and do their part. The defense has won so many games for this team, how about the offense do their ****ing part for once.

Mr. Laz · 11-20-2016, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

True.

True or false, IF Alex Smith holds that ball that gets int'd in double coverage and we kick a fg it changes the 19-17 loss.

True, definitely

My point is that there was more than one reason we lost the game.

Of course Alex Smith's terrible pass for an interception was one of those reasons.

**petegz28** · 11-20-2016, 05:49 PM

Here's where the defense hurt us today....

Field position...
3rd down conversions...
Stops on critical downs...

They couldn't hold them at the half...
They couldn't keep them out of the endzone after the INT...
They couldn't get a stop at the end of the game when we needed it on 3rd down..

Save one drive, the Bucs didn't have great starting field position the entire game. In fact, one of their drives started on their own 4 yard line and they just waltzed right down the field. The only times they didn't score was when Winston dropped the ball and when they got called for a holding penalty.

Other than that, the Bucs had their way with our defense today. On the ground, in the air, 3rd and long, didn't matter.

The offense left 11 points on the field, no questions about it. But the defense was not good at all today. I think the score is not indicative of how bad they played. Maybe that's a good thing, I don't know.

oaklandhater · 11-20-2016, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet

Make no mistake, nobody thinks the defense played great today. They did not play well. They still held the opposing team to 19 points. The offense didn't step up and do their part. The defense has won so many games for this team, how about the offense do their ****ing part for once.

This is really all that needs to be said out offense is ranked 28th there is no defending it anymore.

11-20-2016, 03:22 PM
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $-1155873	Bucs abused the defense... I don't care what you have to say about Smith or the offense. The Chiefs defense got absolutely ass pumped by the Bucs. They got one stop because Winston dropped the ball. When the game was on the line they couldn't stop anything. They gave up 5-8 ypc runs all day long. WR's were running around wide open and no one even sniffed Winston's jock. Blame who you want on offense and there is blame to be had by them and Reid. But the defense killed us today. Last edited by petegz28; 11-21-2016 at 08:27 AM..
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11-20-2016, 05:42 PM	#213
MeatRock Seasons in the Abyss Join Date: Jan 2010 Casino cash: $10010596	Points off turnovers. Hard to win with that along with a bunch of 3 and outs. No chance to keep the Buc's offense off the field and rest the Defense. The offense did nothing to control the game.
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11-20-2016, 05:48 PM	#222
Beef Supreme MVP Join Date: Oct 2010 Casino cash: $10019560	Make no mistake, nobody thinks the defense played great today. They did not play well. They still held the opposing team to 19 points. The offense didn't step up and do their part. The defense has won so many games for this team, how about the offense do their ****ing part for once.
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11-20-2016, 05:49 PM	#224
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $-1155873	Here's where the defense hurt us today.... Field position... 3rd down conversions... Stops on critical downs... They couldn't hold them at the half... They couldn't keep them out of the endzone after the INT... They couldn't get a stop at the end of the game when we needed it on 3rd down.. Save one drive, the Bucs didn't have great starting field position the entire game. In fact, one of their drives started on their own 4 yard line and they just waltzed right down the field. The only times they didn't score was when Winston dropped the ball and when they got called for a holding penalty. Other than that, the Bucs had their way with our defense today. On the ground, in the air, 3rd and long, didn't matter. The offense left 11 points on the field, no questions about it. But the defense was not good at all today. I think the score is not indicative of how bad they played. Maybe that's a good thing, I don't know.
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