Chiefs Bucs abused the defense... - Page 17

**petegz28** · 08:27 AM

I don't care what you have to say about Smith or the offense. The Chiefs defense got absolutely ass pumped by the Bucs. They got one stop because Winston dropped the ball. When the game was on the line they couldn't stop anything. They gave up 5-8 ypc runs all day long. WR's were running around wide open and no one even sniffed Winston's jock.

Blame who you want on offense and there is blame to be had by them and Reid. But the defense killed us today.

MeatRock · 11-20-2016, 05:59 PM

Smith doesn't throw enough TD's to be exonerated for his Picks. Period!

**petegz28** · 11-20-2016, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Uh yeah. You'll lay the blame on Reid and Kelce but Smith gets a pass because he hardly throws INTs.

Try less stupid and slower reading...you might actually understand what I said.

**petegz28** · 11-20-2016, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MeatRock

Smith doesn't throw enough TD's to be exonerated for his Picks. Period!

Meh, I can't go there. He rarely throws INT's. We can't start cherry picking. He rarely throws INT's. And even with that INT we were still in the game. We needed one 3 and out. Just one.

oaklandhater · 11-20-2016, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Meh, I can't go there. He rarely throws INT's. We can't start cherry picking. He rarely throws INT's. And even with that INT we were still in the game. We needed one 3 and out. Just one.

28TH RANKED OFFENSE ITS A DUMPSTER FIRE!!!!!!!

Rasputin · 11-20-2016, 06:02 PM

I think Peters was a notable missing piece to this defense he adds another dimension that creates the rest of the defense to play with swag. The defense lacked swag today.

It was nice to see Houston out there but he needs to get into football shape to do the things he is capable of doing but he will soon enough I believe in him getting back at 100% with few games under his belt.

This defense is still top notch just the offense has got to do something to put points on the score bored for the defense to defend.

Beef Supreme · 11-20-2016, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Meh, I can't go there. He rarely throws INT's. We can't start cherry picking. He rarely throws INT's. And even with that INT we were still in the game. We needed one 3 and out. Just one.

We needed our defense to win the game for us. Again.

They didn't.

When is the offense going to win a game for us?

**New World Order** · 11-20-2016, 06:02 PM

Offense is definitely an ugly thing to watch.

No argument there.

**The Franchise** · 11-20-2016, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Meh, I can't go there. He rarely throws INT's. We can't start cherry picking. He rarely throws INT's. And even with that INT we were still in the game. We needed one 3 and out. Just one.

Yeah. We were still in the game....because the defense kept us there. If they were as bad as you said they were....we would have been down by more than 3 scores.

oaklandhater · 11-20-2016, 06:02 PM

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/chiefs-...220558032.html

Chiefs seeing red after loss hurts chances to win tight AFC West race

If the Kansas City Chiefs are going to emerge from the three-card monte that is the AFC West, they’re going to have to avoid two things: losing to teams below them and missing on chances to score points.

Both happened Sunday.

The Chiefs inexplicably blew a chance to push the Denver Broncos and Oakland Raiders, playing later in Week 11, with a game they should have won. But the Tampa Bay Buccaneers — imagine this — were the more poised and efficient team on Sunday in a 19-17 win over the Chiefs.

That’s saying a lot. The Bucs have been a wild affair this season, replete with turnovers, defensive breakdowns and The Roberto Aguayo Experience. But Aguyao, on a day when kickers lost their ability to kick league-wide, was a perfect 4-of-4, and the Chiefs couldn’t count on them beating themselves.

Alex Smith and the Kansas City Chiefs lost a tough game Sunday. (AP)
Alex Smith and the Kansas City Chiefs lost a tough game Sunday. (AP)
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This is a team that had won 10 straight at Arrowhead, but the Chiefs are just not a dynamic offensive team right now. In addition to bogging down in the red zone (2-for-4 on Sunday, after 0-for-6 the previous two games), they also gave away points when Alex Smith was picked in the end zone by Bucs safety Chris Conte with 12 minutes to go in the fourth quarter.

That was a back breaker, and Smith couldn’t get the ball back in time to make a charge for a late field goal. It might not have mattered. The Chiefs ran 52 plays Sunday, and 49 of them went for 17 yards or shorter. Jeremy Maclin’s absence made a difference, but even with him on the field the Chiefs can’t afford to not capitalize on drive and give teams such as the Buccaneers chances.

Despite some shaky moments from Jameis Winston, he often diced the Chiefs up. The Bucs converted 69 percent of their third-down attempts against the Chiefs, which — like their red-zone troubles on offense — is a disturbing trend that is going on three weeks now.

Now the Chiefs have four of their final six games against AFC West teams. The good news is that they can take care of business in games that matter more than this one. The bad news? They’ll have a very hard time doing so with efforts such as these.

– – – – – – –

Eric Edholm is a writer for Shutdown Corner on Yahoo Sports. Have a tip? Email him at [email protected] or follow him on Twitter!

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**SAUTO** · 11-20-2016, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Meh, I can't go there. He rarely throws INT's. We can't start cherry picking. He rarely throws INT's. And even with that INT we were still in the game. We needed one 3 and out. Just one.

Or one fg instead of an int

**petegz28** · 11-20-2016, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by oaklandhater

28TH RANKED OFFENSE ITS A DUMPSTER FIRE!!!!!!!

7-3 ...I am not complaining

**petegz28** · 11-20-2016, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Or one fg instead of an int

I am not sure about that. You think the defense would have held the Bucs for 3+ minutes and gave us a 1 point win?

Here's a hint. The defense didn't have a single 3 and out all game.

Most likely the Bucs would have kicked a FG to win the game.

KCUnited · 11-20-2016, 06:04 PM

MeatRock · 11-20-2016, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Meh, I can't go there. He rarely throws INT's. We can't start cherry picking. He rarely throws INT's. And even with that INT we were still in the game. We needed one 3 and out. Just one.

He rarely throws TD's too, unfortunately. 9 td's to 4 int's? Not getting it done through 10 games.

**New World Order** · 11-20-2016, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

7-3 ...I am not complaining

Thank you defense.

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