Alex Smith was not the problem Sunday, sorry haters.

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Despite the common thought here that Alex Smith held down the team Sunday, Smith's overall production to the team yesterday graded out very positive in 3 rankings:
Smith: QBR 94.1, QB rating 99, PFF 71.9
Winston: QBR 83.6, QB rating 97, PFF 50.7



https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro...-for-bucs-win/

"Smith gained positive expected points (EPA) on 77 percent of his plays on Sunday, the second-highest rate for a QB in a game this season (Dak Prescott, 83 percent versus Chicago in Week 3). Put simply, more than three-fourths of his plays contributed to the team’s scoring margin, given the context and situation." - http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/p...s-excels-again

This is why we should use our brains instead of repeating the garbage fed to us by Mellinger and Teicher. If Smith only had 34 plays yesterday to do something with the ball and earns both a rushing and passing TD, a FG, to 1 INT (first red zone interception since 2013) and completes an outstanding 77% of passes ... we should probably focus on the real problem yesterday: The Defense. Who didn't show up and allowed Winston/Martin to hold the ball for 35 minutes, earn 24 first downs, and convert 68% of 3rd downs (league average is 40%).

Against the Bucs...
Alex Smith: 1 INT, 99 QB rating
Philip Rivers: 2 INTs, 80 QB rating
Russell Wilson: 2 INTs, 39 QB rating
Drew Brees: 3 INTs, 49 QB rating

[JakeLV]

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Call your mommy and have her read the OP for you. All the way thru. You can do it!

Why would I call my mom, when I've got yours right here?

Your argument disintegrates, so you revert to childishness? Nice.

[fan4ever]

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Without Maclin and he completes 77% of his throws, has overall positive production and this is the point I bring up...the people drinking the haterade with a lack of understanding of this game.

This starting to look like the San Fran Carr/Smith controversy under Singletary. But thankfully, Reid is a winning head coach and isn't stupid enough like many of you on here to allow a controversy to happen.

Lack of understanding of the game...precious...from a guy who thinks stats are an accurate portrayal of what happened on the football field. I'm not saying Smith should be benched or even Foles should start...Smith is the best we can do for now...I'm saying he's not even close to being an elite QB despite some great games in the past...and not worthy of all the man-love you and others give him. A lot of QB's in this league have had stunning performances upon occasion...the difference is performing at a high level on a consistent basis...not every once in a while.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

yup.

Alex has totally hit the wall.

I've been vocal about Reid for years, but I've given Alex a pass in the past 3 because I realize that he is truly an extension of his coach on the field. Garbage in, garbage out when Reid is your HC/OC...but this year, Alex looks slower. Older.

I'd be surprised if he doesn't retire by the end of the year.

You do understand Smith (Barring injury) is your starting QB until 2018?
Hate to break it to you but this isn't Madden and you don't get to trade with your friends online.

[Simply Red]

Oh well, It's only a game.

[The Franchise]

As long as BlackBob is around......I'll be cheering for Alex and CTE to meet.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Originally Posted by fan4ever

Lack of understanding of the game...precious...from a guy who thinks stats are an accurate portrayal of what happened on the football field. I'm not saying Smith should be benched or even Foles should start...Smith is the best we can do for now...I'm saying he's not even close to being an elite QB despite some great games in the past...and not worthy of all the man-love you and others give him. A lot of QB's in this league have had stunning performances upon occasion...the difference is performing at a high level on a consistent basis...not every once in a while.

But if you read carefully nobody has called Smith elite. He's a capable game manager with the potential to play very well as seen by many games with us and his career playoff performances.
The point is to show that this is a team game and the defense cannot be excused from criticism. The offense is far from its standards in 2015, but then again we won't know the full product that we have until our #1 receiver is back healthy....

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

I'd be surprised if he doesn't retire by the end of the year.

If the season keeps going downhill..if Smith loses faith in Andy's playcalls.. if his wife is chirping it in his ear...

Yep.

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

As long as BlackBob is around......I'll be cheering for Alex and CTE to meet.

Dude.....

[pugsnotdrugs19]

You all are just spinning your tires on this thing, whether you like Alex or don't, or anyone else on the roster.

At the end of the day, it's up to the staff and the team to get this thing figured out, not us. If they do, great, we're all hoping for that, but if they don't, they'll go in a new direction. Nothing is going to change until the offseason.

I'll continue to pull for this team every week and see the good and the bad for what it is. If things need changed, I trust Dorsey will make it happen.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

You do understand Smith (Barring injury) is your starting QB until 2018?
Hate to break it to you but this isn't Madden and you don't get to trade with your friends online.

The Chiefs could conceivably walk away from him after this season, and there's rumors out there that they are considering it. He keeps QBing the 29th ranked offense and it might well happen.

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

If the season keeps going downhill..if Smith loses faith in Andy's playcalls.. if his wife is chirping it in his ear...

Yep.

Double concussions in one game would really get me to consider retirement...

Especially with he cash he has... I wouldnt risk it for some franchise that craves 9-7...

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

But if you read carefully nobody has called Smith elite. He's a capable game manager with the potential to play very well as seen by many games with us and his career playoff performances.
The point is to show that this is a team game and the defense cannot be excused from criticism. The offense is far from its standards in 2015, but then again we won't know the full product that we have until our #1 receiver is back healthy....

love him or hate him.. I don't see how anyone could argue this post.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Originally Posted by JakeLV

Why would I call my mom, when I've got yours right here?

Your argument disintegrates, so you revert to childishness? Nice.

"The Defense. Who didn't show up and allowed Winston/Martin to hold the ball for 35 minutes, earn 24 first downs, and convert 68% of 3rd downs. "


Read thru the whole thing next time buddy.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

You all are just spinning your tires on this thing, whether you like Alex or don't, or anyone else on the roster.

At the end of the day, it's up to the staff and the team to get this thing figured out, not us. If they do, great, we're all hoping for that, but if they don't, they'll go in a new direction. Nothing is going to change until the offseason.

I'll continue to pull for this team every week and see the good and the bad for what it is. If things need changed, I trust Dorsey will make it happen.

Oh absolutely, but threads like this deserve to get shat upon, as does TiggerBob

[fan4ever]

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

He's a regular pioneer eh?

Hey, you don't call a time out for the opposing team as they're marching down the field with the clock running down just before the second half if you don't think outside the box every once in a while.