Alex Smith was not the problem Sunday, sorry haters.

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Despite the common thought here that Alex Smith held down the team Sunday, Smith's overall production to the team yesterday graded out very positive in 3 rankings:
Smith: QBR 94.1, QB rating 99, PFF 71.9
Winston: QBR 83.6, QB rating 97, PFF 50.7



https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro...-for-bucs-win/

"Smith gained positive expected points (EPA) on 77 percent of his plays on Sunday, the second-highest rate for a QB in a game this season (Dak Prescott, 83 percent versus Chicago in Week 3). Put simply, more than three-fourths of his plays contributed to the team’s scoring margin, given the context and situation." - http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/p...s-excels-again

This is why we should use our brains instead of repeating the garbage fed to us by Mellinger and Teicher. If Smith only had 34 plays yesterday to do something with the ball and earns both a rushing and passing TD, a FG, to 1 INT (first red zone interception since 2013) and completes an outstanding 77% of passes ... we should probably focus on the real problem yesterday: The Defense. Who didn't show up and allowed Winston/Martin to hold the ball for 35 minutes, earn 24 first downs, and convert 68% of 3rd downs (league average is 40%).

Against the Bucs...
Alex Smith: 1 INT, 99 QB rating
Philip Rivers: 2 INTs, 80 QB rating
Russell Wilson: 2 INTs, 39 QB rating
Drew Brees: 3 INTs, 49 QB rating

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by thebrad84

Why does it have to be one or the other? Why can't both sides of the ball get blamed for sucking dick yesterday and costing us the game against an inferior team? That's the way I see it. Now, I guess one can argue that our offense has been sucking more dick this year than our defense, but in terms of how both played yesterday I think they both had their fair share of gagging on a long, fat penis.

Because that's not how things work on CP.

Maybe people would've been more apt to chalk it off as an isolated incident, had we not almost lost the exact same game to pretty much the exact same shitty team the week previous.

Alex hasn't been good this season...but he's been absolutely terrible since the concussions. Something isn't right in his head.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by jspchief

Not just Alex. The entire offense. The play calling, the philosophy, the QB, the run blocking, etc.

The offense as a whole just isn't good enough. When they are really clicking, they max out at "pretty good". When they are playing at their average they are just mediocre. Get used to it, because nothing notable is going to change.

Just remember :

Andy Reid is an offensive genius, and Alex runs his offense to perfection.

[Aspengc8]

multiple contributing issues for the loss yesterday.

-Kelce drops a easy pass that would have been a walk in TD
-Parker drops INT
-Acker drops INT
-Smith had some bad reads (zone read on 3rd down, missed kelce on 3rd down, bad read on endzone INT)
-HORRIBLE tackling
-injuries forcing mismatches all over the field.

The beauty of this game, is that it takes all 11 guys to perform their jobs correctly. One missed read, block, tackle is all it takes.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

You know who else takes blame in that time of position battle? The offense for not converting 3rd downs. The offense hung the defense out to dry on Sunday.

100% accurate. You know football.

Alex was 2/6 on 3rd down before the INT, when Tampa still played base.

He was 2/2 on 3rd down when they went prevent. For a whopping 50%.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Originally Posted by thebrad84

Why does it have to be one or the other? Why can't both sides of the ball get blamed for sucking dick yesterday and costing us the game against an inferior team? That's the way I see it. Now, I guess one can argue that our offense has been sucking more dick this year than our defense, but in terms of how both played yesterday I think they both had their fair share of gagging on a long, fat penis.

This is a very fair statement

[Chiefnj2]

4 years in and there are 2 certainties every single game:

1. Andy is going to mess up red-zone play calling.
2. The defense still needs to carry the offense.

The offense has very little room for error. If they misfire they don't have the ability to overcome little gaffs.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Originally Posted by Aspengc8

multiple contributing issues for the loss yesterday.

-Kelce drops a easy pass that would have been a walk in TD
-Parker drops INT
-Acker drops INT
-Smith had some bad reads (zone read on 3rd down, missed kelce on 3rd down, bad read on endzone INT)
-HORRIBLE tackling
-injuries forcing mismatches all over the field.

The beauty of this game, is that it takes all 11 guys to perform their jobs correctly. One missed read, block, tackle is all it takes.

Truth.

Silver lining was seeing Smith hit those 40 yard bombs, and running for that 11 yard TD when he recognized the defense was playing man coverage and no linebackers had their eyes on him. The INT with 10 minutes remaining sucked, but the defense had two opportunities to hold the Bucs after that and didn't contribute. Team loss. Time to move forward, hopefully with a healthy J Mac

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by Aspengc8

multiple contributing issues for the loss yesterday.

-Kelce drops a easy pass that would have been a walk in TD
-Parker drops INT
-Acker drops INT
-Smith had some bad reads (zone read on 3rd down, missed kelce on 3rd down, bad read on endzone INT)
-HORRIBLE tackling
-injuries forcing mismatches all over the field.

The beauty of this game, is that it takes all 11 guys to perform their jobs correctly. One missed read, block, tackle is all it takes.

None of that matters if Alex doesn't throw the INT and we at least kick the 3. That interception and the stupid timeout at the end of the 1st half by Reid that gave TB a FG to end the half were absolutely inexcusable. Andy Reid should never have called the timeout. Andy Reid should have never called a pass play on 2nd and GL with 12 min left, ESPECIALLY THAT ONE...and Alex should have never thrown at a double covered Conley without even looking anywhere else.

That's why it's on Reid and the QB. Because Reid is supposedly a good head coach...yet continues to suck at such simple stuff as clock management and he's not a very good play caller either.

Alex Smith is supposedly a game manager who doesn't make mistakes...yet here he is, firing directly into the arms of Chris "Thanks, Lovie" Conte for a backbreaking pick that is returned to the 50, in the 4th quarter.

Which, TigerUppercut, resulted in the ONLY TB TD of the game, due to the short field on the interception return. Because Alex left the defense in a bad position. Because he's just not a very good QB anymore.

Which is why the Chiefs lost. In case anyone was wondering.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Dayze

yep. anyone who says Reid is inventive...... so was the Slap Chop. That doesn't make it good.

We use our Slap Chop all the time, brah. Don't EVER compare my Slap Chop to Reid's play calling again, got it?

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Truth.

Silver lining was seeing Smith hit those 40 yard bombs, and running for that 11 yard TD when he recognized the defense was playing man coverage and no linebackers had their eyes on him. The INT with 10 minutes remaining sucked, but the defense had two opportunities to hold the Bucs after that and didn't contribute. Team loss. Time to move forward, hopefully with a healthy J Mac

Maybe Alex should clean up his own mess and tackle the guy who picks him off before the ball gets returned to ****ing midfield.

Did you consider that in your astute observation??

[In58men]

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Truth.

Silver lining was seeing Smith hit those 40 yard bombs, and running for that 11 yard TD when he recognized the defense was playing man coverage and no linebackers had their eyes on him. The INT with 10 minutes remaining sucked, but the defense had two opportunities to hold the Bucs after that and didn't contribute. Team loss. Time to move forward, hopefully with a healthy J Mac

All of this typing and yet Alex Smith still sucks

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by Inmem58

All of this typing and yet Alex Smith still sucks

Tale of the tape :

Alex throws a pick in the end zone

It gets returned to the 50

Defense gives up only TD of the game on short field

tiggie blames the defense

You can't make this shit up.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by loochy

We use our Slap Chop all the time, brah. Don't EVER compare my Slap Chop to Reid's play calling again, got it?

Slap Chop>Andy Reid's playcalling

[Dayze]

Originally Posted by loochy

We use our Slap Chop all the time, brah. Don't EVER compare my Slap Chop to Reid's play calling again, got it?

my apologies; and Noted.

[Aspengc8]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

None of that matters if Alex doesn't throw the INT and we at least kick the 3. That interception and the stupid timeout at the end of the 1st half by Reid that gave TB a FG to end the half were absolutely inexcusable. Andy Reid should never have called the timeout. Andy Reid should have never called a pass play on 2nd and GL with 12 min left, ESPECIALLY THAT ONE...and Alex should have never thrown at a double covered Conley without even looking anywhere else.

That's why it's on Reid and the QB. Because Reid is supposedly a good head coach...yet continues to suck at such simple stuff as clock management and he's not a very good play caller either.

Alex Smith is supposedly a game manager who doesn't make mistakes...yet here he is, firing directly into the arms of Chris "Thanks, Lovie" Conte for a backbreaking pick that is returned to the 50, in the 4th quarter.

Which, TigerUppercut, resulted in the ONLY TB TD of the game, due to the short field on the interception return. Because Alex left the defense in a bad position. Because he's just not a very good QB anymore.

Which is why the Chiefs lost. In case anyone was wondering.

ALL of it matters. Yeah, it was a bad read by Alex. Yeah, Andy makes some bonehead playcalls (I'm looking at you, Kelce sweep). At the end of the game, all of that shit coagulates for the end result. I'm not a Andy/Alex fan, just looking at all the events that led up to the loss. This one is on the team, not any one individual.