Chiefs Alex Smith was not the problem Sunday, sorry haters. - Page 19

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 09:10 PM

Despite the common thought here that Alex Smith held down the team Sunday, Smith's overall production to the team yesterday graded out very positive in 3 rankings:
Smith: QBR 94.1, QB rating 99, PFF 71.9
Winston: QBR 83.6, QB rating 97, PFF 50.7

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro...-for-bucs-win/

"Smith gained positive expected points (EPA) on 77 percent of his plays on Sunday, the second-highest rate for a QB in a game this season (Dak Prescott, 83 percent versus Chicago in Week 3). Put simply, more than three-fourths of his plays contributed to the team’s scoring margin, given the context and situation." - http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/p...s-excels-again

This is why we should use our brains instead of repeating the garbage fed to us by Mellinger and Teicher. If Smith only had 34 plays yesterday to do something with the ball and earns both a rushing and passing TD, a FG, to 1 INT (first red zone interception since 2013) and completes an outstanding 77% of passes ... we should probably focus on the real problem yesterday: The Defense. Who didn't show up and allowed Winston/Martin to hold the ball for 35 minutes, earn 24 first downs, and convert 68% of 3rd downs (league average is 40%).

Against the Bucs...
Alex Smith: 1 INT, 99 QB rating
Philip Rivers: 2 INTs, 80 QB rating
Russell Wilson: 2 INTs, 39 QB rating
Drew Brees: 3 INTs, 49 QB rating

Sweet Daddy Hate · 11-21-2016, 05:47 PM

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King_Chief_Fan · 11-21-2016, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX

Dang - You can hide anything behind certain stats. Trust your eyes for answers. Anyone who doesn't think Smith was a huge problem yesterday is not qualified to be taken seriously on the matter.

Make no doubt....Smith is the issue

Marcellus · 11-21-2016, 05:51 PM

I didn't even watch the second half of the game due to a family gathering and I dont want to hear anyone say Smith isn't part of the problem.

That being said since I havent and wont go back and watch the 2nd half, what happened on the INT near the EZ?

**TimeForWasp** · 11-21-2016, 05:52 PM

Chiefs need to be more aggressive on offence and defence. PERIOD

**OnTheWarpath15** · 11-21-2016, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58

The man has a point, unlike the OP

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And when the defense gives up more than 17 points in any of those games, take a wild ass guess who will get the blame?

In58men · 11-21-2016, 05:54 PM

Thanks Smith for not seeing Kelce wide open and also overthrowing him.

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**OnTheWarpath15** · 11-21-2016, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

I didn't even watch the second half of the game due to a family gathering and I dont want to hear anyone say Smith isn't part of the problem.

That being said since I havent and wont go back and watch the 2nd half, what happened on the INT near the EZ?

He stared down the WR and the safety broke before the ball was even out of his hand.

It was slightly tipped at the line, but wouldn't have mattered. The broadcast showed a view from behind the LOS that shows the safety with a clean break on it.

**SAUTO** · 11-21-2016, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

I didn't even watch the second half of the game due to a family gathering and I dont want to hear anyone say Smith isn't part of the problem.

That being said since I havent and wont go back and watch the 2nd half, what happened on the INT near the EZ?

He watched the receiver the whole way, threw it a little late, it got tipped a little, receiver was double covered and it got picked.

Many said the tip caused it even after the tv showed it about ten times and the announcers pointed out it was getting picked either way. Which was pretty obvious

**SAUTO** · 11-21-2016, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

He stared down the WR and the safety broke before the ball was even out of his hand.

It was slightly tipped at the line, but wouldn't have mattered. The broadcast showed a view from behind the LOS that shows the safety with a clean break on it.

Yeah I guess he wasn't double covered to start. He just telegraphed the throw so bad that the safety was there before the ball.

On a three yard throw.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 11-21-2016, 05:59 PM

It was the same play they ran at Houston in the Wild Card game. Smith, Reid, and the whole offense was counting on the safety to bite on the PA like in Houston, and Conley would be open.

The safety didn't bite. He forced it in, INT.

TEX · 11-21-2016, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

He stared down the WR and the safety broke before the ball was even out of his hand.

It was slightly tipped at the line, but wouldn't have mattered. The broadcast showed a view from behind the LOS that shows the safety with a clean break on it.

That is exactly what happened. Right when Smith threw it, everyone watching knew it was gonna get picked. The Safety jumped in the throwing lane to the spot where the ball was thrown. Not only that, there was another defender there. It was the kind of throw a rookie QB makes. It had zero chance for success once the ball was snapped.

In58men · 11-21-2016, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

And when the defense gives up more than 17 points in any of those games, take a wild ass guess who will get the blame?

Still can't win games if the offense is shitting everywhere.

In58men · 11-21-2016, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

And when the defense gives up more than 17 points in any of those games, take a wild ass guess who will get the blame?

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2016/1...ucs-loss-hurts

Mitch Morse:

“I think the last few weeks, it feels like the offense hasn’t, really, done it’s part in terms of putting up the points that we need to and being able to get our defense in good situations and letting those guys rush. We need figure out why that is and work on it this week and get better.”

**The Franchise** · 11-21-2016, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2016/1...ucs-loss-hurts

Mitch Morse:

“I think the last few weeks, it feels like the offense hasn’t, really, done it’s part in terms of putting up the points that we need to and being able to get our defense in good situations and letting those guys rush. We need figure out why that is and work on it this week and get better.”

That's a quote from Schwartz...not Morse.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 11-21-2016, 06:23 PM

If we don't come out and run the football at this lousy run defense Denver has, I might shit a cat.

It's going to mean everything to winning this game and games going forward.

11-21-2016, 09:33 AM
TigeRRUppeRRcut Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: 19th Hole Casino cash: $10004725	Alex Smith is a solid QB, sorry haters. Bucs win 5th game in a row. Despite the common thought here that Alex Smith held down the team Sunday, Smith's overall production to the team yesterday graded out very positive in 3 rankings: Smith: QBR 94.1, QB rating 99, PFF 71.9 Winston: QBR 83.6, QB rating 97, PFF 50.7 https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro...-for-bucs-win/ "Smith gained positive expected points (EPA) on 77 percent of his plays on Sunday, the second-highest rate for a QB in a game this season (Dak Prescott, 83 percent versus Chicago in Week 3). Put simply, more than three-fourths of his plays contributed to the team’s scoring margin, given the context and situation." - http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/p...s-excels-again This is why we should use our brains instead of repeating the garbage fed to us by Mellinger and Teicher. If Smith only had 34 plays yesterday to do something with the ball and earns both a rushing and passing TD, a FG, to 1 INT (first red zone interception since 2013) and completes an outstanding 77% of passes ... we should probably focus on the real problem yesterday: The Defense. Who didn't show up and allowed Winston/Martin to hold the ball for 35 minutes, earn 24 first downs, and convert 68% of 3rd downs (league average is 40%). Against the Bucs... Alex Smith: 1 INT, 99 QB rating Philip Rivers: 2 INTs, 80 QB rating Russell Wilson: 2 INTs, 39 QB rating Drew Brees: 3 INTs, 49 QB rating Last edited by TigeRRUppeRRcut; 12-11-2016 at 09:10 PM..
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pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $6609447	If we don't come out and run the football at this lousy run defense Denver has, I might shit a cat. It's going to mean everything to winning this game and games going forward.
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