Alex Smith was not the problem Sunday, sorry haters.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Despite the common thought here that Alex Smith held down the team Sunday, Smith's overall production to the team yesterday graded out very positive in 3 rankings:
Smith: QBR 94.1, QB rating 99, PFF 71.9
Winston: QBR 83.6, QB rating 97, PFF 50.7



https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro...-for-bucs-win/

"Smith gained positive expected points (EPA) on 77 percent of his plays on Sunday, the second-highest rate for a QB in a game this season (Dak Prescott, 83 percent versus Chicago in Week 3). Put simply, more than three-fourths of his plays contributed to the team’s scoring margin, given the context and situation." - http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/p...s-excels-again

This is why we should use our brains instead of repeating the garbage fed to us by Mellinger and Teicher. If Smith only had 34 plays yesterday to do something with the ball and earns both a rushing and passing TD, a FG, to 1 INT (first red zone interception since 2013) and completes an outstanding 77% of passes ... we should probably focus on the real problem yesterday: The Defense. Who didn't show up and allowed Winston/Martin to hold the ball for 35 minutes, earn 24 first downs, and convert 68% of 3rd downs (league average is 40%).

Against the Bucs...
Alex Smith: 1 INT, 99 QB rating
Philip Rivers: 2 INTs, 80 QB rating
Russell Wilson: 2 INTs, 39 QB rating
Drew Brees: 3 INTs, 49 QB rating

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Costly play but with 12 minutes left, the defense lost the game letting 5 minutes drain and giving up a TD to the Bucs. Defense messed up again for not holding them to 3 and out after our offense went 78 yards and scored a TD.

But keep trying to rewrite history...

The defense was on the field for so long not to mention they're depleted to shit. Of course they're gona give up some points. Yet, they still held TB to 19 points including 4 FGs. That game was close because of the defense. That game is squarely on Alex Smith.....and Andy Reid to some degree with his horrific red zone play-calling. This defense can't save Alex every ****ing week you reeruned mongoloid.

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

Don't waste your breath. He is in so deep defending Smith that he can't admit an issue without admitting he was wrong. He has shown nothing to make us think he has that trait within him.

I defended Alex last season because that version was tolerable. This season is just excruciatingly bad to watch. We have weapons but Smith is so ****ing scared and paranoid that he misses reads consistently like a ****ing rookie. I'm done with this dog and pony show. It's time for change. I'd rather give Foles a shot with the ones because he can at least threaten intermediate to deep. Proved it against Indy. I don't hold the Jags against him too much because he was playing with a depleted offense. Now, he missed throws and made mistakes but he's far more of a threat than Smith. Smith's best attribute was his feet, now they're virtually nonexistent with the exception of his TD. Last year, Smith was gaining key first downs with his feet. This season he hasn't and it's killing the offense. Smith has regressed this year before our very own eyes.

[Al Bundy]

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

How is it a game losing pick if it occurred with 12 minutes left... Let me guess, you never played organized sports? Good to know.

Actually.. I did. But see, if Alex just throws the ball into the stands the Chiefs kick a field goal and this is all a moot point. But whatever, I'm a Buccaneers fan and we have a QB.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Originally Posted by Al Bundy

Actually.. I did. But see, if Alex just throws the ball into the stands the Chiefs kick a field goal and this is all a moot point. But whatever, I'm a Buccaneers fan and we have a QB.

12 minutes left, almost an entire quarter of football. Field goal or not we don't know how our defense would have played but based on what we saw... Our offense was moving the ball, the defense was miserable.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

I defended Alex last season because that version was tolerable. This season is just excruciatingly bad to watch. We have weapons but Smith is so ****ing scared and paranoid that he misses reads consistently like a ****ing rookie. I'm done with this dog and pony show. It's time for change. I'd rather give Foles a shot with the ones because he can at least threaten intermediate to deep. Proved it against Indy. I don't hold the Jags against him too much because he was playing with a depleted offense. Now, he missed throws and made mistakes but he's far more of a threat than Smith. Smith's best attribute was his feet, now they're virtually nonexistent with the exception of his TD. Last year, Smith was gaining key first downs with his feet. This season he hasn't and it's killing the offense. Smith has regressed this year before our very own eyes.

Pretty much how I feel about the situation as well.

[farmerchief]

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

The defense was on the field for so long not to mention they're depleted to shit. Of course they're gona give up some points. Yet, they still held TB to 19 points including 4 FGs. That game was close because of the defense. That game is squarely on Alex Smith.....and Andy Reid to some degree with his horrific red zone play-calling. This defense can't save Alex every ****ing week you reeruned mongoloid.

I agree, the Defense has won so many games for the Chiefs of late, it was time for the Offense to contribute and win one on its own, and they couldnt do it!

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

Alex is good at one thing and that's not turning the ball over. Now he's doing that. His value is shit to this team now. If he'd play like he did vs. Oakland, he'd be fine.

The thing is he's in his 4th year in the offense and is having a career worst season. That's not good at all.


The thing I want to see more of is the offense running no huddle. This offense is much more efficient putting pressure on the defense when they're not the ones reacting. They get so few drives and it makes each one count. They need to speed the offense up and get more possessions.

Against Oakland, we featured the run. Only game we have done that all year. Had linemen out in front on sweeps and everything. Not just runs up the middle.

We are throwing at a 60-40 ratio on the season. With a QB who is on pace for 14 TD's for the season.

It needs to be in the 50-50 to 45-55 range for Smith to be at his best.

[Pablo]

I just don't understand the fantasy football expectations for some of you. So you want the offense to set up our punter AND score TD's?

WTF?? Is this Madden or am I missing something?

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

12 minutes left, almost an entire quarter of football. Field goal or not we don't know how our defense would have played but based on what we saw... Our offense was moving the ball, the defense was miserable.

we saw how the game ended.

Our defense gave up another td after that (but IT was set up by the int, one could argue our defense might not have given that one up had they not started on the 50) and we scored one.

We would have won by one.

[RealSNR]

Over/under 20 people that Tigerbob has on ignore?

Remember, it's facts, not fiction.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

Over/under 20 people that Tigerbob has on ignore?

Remember, it's facts, not fiction.

Every person put on ignore is like subtracting a throat thrust for him.

He's gonna CP ignore his way past his uncle making his mouth to be lady parts.

[Hammock Parties]

Wow I just got done reading this thread.

Are you guys really this divided over one of the best W-L QBs in the NFL?

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by JasonM

Wow I just got done reading this thread.

Are you guys really this divided over one of the best W-L QBs in the NFL?

So you're saying this is a playoff / superbowl offense?

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by JasonM

Wow I just got done reading this thread.

Are you guys really this divided over one of the best W-L QBs in the NFL?

Mark Sanchez won a lot of games his first 2-3 years in New York.

Did you think he was a good QB like you do Alex?

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

So you're saying this is a playoff / superbowl offense?

Playoff maybe. SB who knows. Broncos offense was terrible last year you know?

Originally Posted by RealSNR

Mark Sanchez won a lot of games his first 2-3 years in New York.

Did you think he was a good QB like you do Alex?

Alex seems to be an average guy but your cheefs have a good thing going...why rock the boat? didnt u guys just win ur first playoff game in like forever??

be happy with what u have cheefs...