Chiefs Alex Smith was not the problem Sunday, sorry haters. - Page 41

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 09:10 PM

Despite the common thought here that Alex Smith held down the team Sunday, Smith's overall production to the team yesterday graded out very positive in 3 rankings:
Smith: QBR 94.1, QB rating 99, PFF 71.9
Winston: QBR 83.6, QB rating 97, PFF 50.7

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro...-for-bucs-win/

"Smith gained positive expected points (EPA) on 77 percent of his plays on Sunday, the second-highest rate for a QB in a game this season (Dak Prescott, 83 percent versus Chicago in Week 3). Put simply, more than three-fourths of his plays contributed to the team’s scoring margin, given the context and situation." - http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/p...s-excels-again

This is why we should use our brains instead of repeating the garbage fed to us by Mellinger and Teicher. If Smith only had 34 plays yesterday to do something with the ball and earns both a rushing and passing TD, a FG, to 1 INT (first red zone interception since 2013) and completes an outstanding 77% of passes ... we should probably focus on the real problem yesterday: The Defense. Who didn't show up and allowed Winston/Martin to hold the ball for 35 minutes, earn 24 first downs, and convert 68% of 3rd downs (league average is 40%).

Against the Bucs...
Alex Smith: 1 INT, 99 QB rating
Philip Rivers: 2 INTs, 80 QB rating
Russell Wilson: 2 INTs, 39 QB rating
Drew Brees: 3 INTs, 49 QB rating

**New World Order** · 11-26-2016, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

I like how all the 49er trolls think Alex Smith is reason why this team went from 2-14 to 11-5. Of course they knew nothing of the 2-14 season and reasons behind it and the talent this roster already had on it.

Yep. Year before they competed for the division and the year before that they were division champs.

Prime Jamaal, Tamba, Houston, Poe, Berry etc..

They had talent.

milkman · 11-26-2016, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by mschiefs1984

It's the way of things

The QB gets to much blame when things are going bad gets to much praise when things are going well. The truth is in the middle.

That being said. Alex was a big part of why this team lost last Sunday. The pick he threw he also had a pass sail on him to Conley in the endzone. Alex Smith has to be better. Is he alone for the blame for that loss of course not there were lots of others who let us down including the head coach. I mean who the **** runs a Jet sweep to the TE in the red zone?

But It just can't be denied that Alex Smith was a big part of the loss to the Bucs. And if the Chiefs have any hope of beating Denver he's going to have to play at a much higher level

I don't think yoi run jet sweeps with a TE.

Cargo sweep?

milkman · 11-26-2016, 06:20 AM

Keysor is spot on with his analysis.

Smith did enough to win the game, if everything goes smoothly.

But everything going smoothly is really rare, and Smith rarely plays well enough to overcome the bumps.

An injury depleted defense couldn't make stops, and Smith and the offense couldn't overcome that.

jspchief · 11-26-2016, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Relying on Smith to win you a game is like strangle wanking.

You might get off with a win the process but at some point you will wind up hanging in your closet dead.

Quality post

GloryDayz · 11-26-2016, 09:08 AM

**** it, I'm on the fly a banner side of the ledger, he's never going to be great.

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TigeRRUppeRRcut · 11-26-2016, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

I like how all the 49er trolls think Alex Smith is reason why this team went from 2-14 to 11-5. Of course they knew nothing of the 2-14 season and reasons behind it and the talent this roster already had on it.

And who did Smith have to throw to in 2013? Dwayne I can't catch worth shit Bowe...Mcgrath...Mccluster...Avery

Yet a winning record and a playoff berth after we had two losing seasons..

RunKC · 11-26-2016, 09:43 AM

If anything has been proven by the Chiefs during this regime, especially the last 2 years, it's that we can afford to have a rookie QB play.
Strong defense, solid OL and weapons.

Biggest hole this team has aside from QB is CB and this upcoming class is one of the stronger CB classes in the past few years.

Sandy Vagina · 11-26-2016, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

If anything has been proven by the Chiefs during this regime, especially the last 2 years, it's that we can afford to have a rookie QB play.

Bring it on then. At this point, Smith isn't doing enough for me to insist he remain the starter.

CP life without the redundant Alex hate would just about be worth all of the losing records that followed. Wins.. all the better.

**RealSNR** · 11-26-2016, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

And who did Smith have to throw to in 2013? Dwayne I can't catch worth shit Bowe...Mcgrath...Mccluster...Avery

Yet a winning record and a playoff berth after we had two losing seasons..

Now he's got Jeremy "I can't catch" Maclin.

Alex Smith destroys WRs. Admit it.

**SAUTO** · 11-26-2016, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

And who did Smith have to throw to in 2013? Dwayne I can't catch worth shit Bowe...Mcgrath...Mccluster...Avery

Yet a winning record and a playoff berth after we had two losing seasons..

Yep it was all him, how many tds did he throw to wrs that year?

Remind me where we ranked in rushing.

Discuss Thrower · 11-26-2016, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

Now he's got Jeremy "I can't catch" Maclin.

Alex Smith destroys WRs. Admit it.

It's just so odd that every offensive line and WR corps Smith has played with ends up being bottom 50th percentile units after every season.

mcaj22 · 11-26-2016, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

And who did Smith have to throw to in 2013? Dwayne I can't catch worth shit Bowe...Mcgrath...Mccluster...Avery

Yet a winning record and a playoff berth after we had two losing seasons..

"we"

YOU WERENT EVEN HERE OR A FAN OR WATCHED A GAME FOR THOSE TWO LOSING SEASONS.

**RealSNR** · 11-26-2016, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

It's just so odd that every offensive line and WR corps Smith has played with ends up being bottom 50th percentile units after every season.

Yep.

He doesn't protect his offensive line. He never has. He makes their jobs far more difficult than they have to be.

People seem to like every OL on this team as an individual player (except for maybe LG). So why is it that we're STILL hearing rumblings occasionally about how THE LINE SUCKS!!!!!

Sandy Vagina · 11-26-2016, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

It's just so odd that every offensive line and WR corps Smith has played with ends up being bottom 50th percentile units after every season.

No more odd than the reality that Smith continues to start at QB for pro teams, and gets paid very well to do so.

So something's got to give here. Either the fans that cry every day are ignorant about the game of football? or the pro coaches that keep starting Smith are ignorant about the game of football.

Hmmm... tough call or no?

Discuss Thrower · 11-26-2016, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

Yep.

He doesn't protect his offensive line. He never has. He makes their jobs far more difficult than they have to be.

People seem to like every OL on this team as an individual player (except for maybe LG). So why is it that we're STILL hearing rumblings occasionally about how THE LINE SUCKS!!!!!

Also, glossing over how the last CBA and the rise of spread offenses have degraded offensive line play across the league.

11-21-2016, 09:33 AM
TigeRRUppeRRcut Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: 19th Hole Casino cash: $10004725	Alex Smith is a solid QB, sorry haters. Bucs win 5th game in a row. Despite the common thought here that Alex Smith held down the team Sunday, Smith's overall production to the team yesterday graded out very positive in 3 rankings: Smith: QBR 94.1, QB rating 99, PFF 71.9 Winston: QBR 83.6, QB rating 97, PFF 50.7 https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro...-for-bucs-win/ "Smith gained positive expected points (EPA) on 77 percent of his plays on Sunday, the second-highest rate for a QB in a game this season (Dak Prescott, 83 percent versus Chicago in Week 3). Put simply, more than three-fourths of his plays contributed to the team’s scoring margin, given the context and situation." - http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/p...s-excels-again This is why we should use our brains instead of repeating the garbage fed to us by Mellinger and Teicher. If Smith only had 34 plays yesterday to do something with the ball and earns both a rushing and passing TD, a FG, to 1 INT (first red zone interception since 2013) and completes an outstanding 77% of passes ... we should probably focus on the real problem yesterday: The Defense. Who didn't show up and allowed Winston/Martin to hold the ball for 35 minutes, earn 24 first downs, and convert 68% of 3rd downs (league average is 40%). Against the Bucs... Alex Smith: 1 INT, 99 QB rating Philip Rivers: 2 INTs, 80 QB rating Russell Wilson: 2 INTs, 39 QB rating Drew Brees: 3 INTs, 49 QB rating Last edited by TigeRRUppeRRcut; 12-11-2016 at 09:10 PM..
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milkman Dumbass! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Leading the Marty bashing Casino cash: $10029395	Keysor is spot on with his analysis. Smith did enough to win the game, if everything goes smoothly. But everything going smoothly is really rare, and Smith rarely plays well enough to overcome the bumps. An injury depleted defense couldn't make stops, and Smith and the offense couldn't overcome that. __________________
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