Chiefs Alex Smith was not the problem Sunday, sorry haters. - Page 63

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 09:10 PM

Despite the common thought here that Alex Smith held down the team Sunday, Smith's overall production to the team yesterday graded out very positive in 3 rankings:
Smith: QBR 94.1, QB rating 99, PFF 71.9
Winston: QBR 83.6, QB rating 97, PFF 50.7

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro...-for-bucs-win/

"Smith gained positive expected points (EPA) on 77 percent of his plays on Sunday, the second-highest rate for a QB in a game this season (Dak Prescott, 83 percent versus Chicago in Week 3). Put simply, more than three-fourths of his plays contributed to the team’s scoring margin, given the context and situation." - http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/p...s-excels-again

This is why we should use our brains instead of repeating the garbage fed to us by Mellinger and Teicher. If Smith only had 34 plays yesterday to do something with the ball and earns both a rushing and passing TD, a FG, to 1 INT (first red zone interception since 2013) and completes an outstanding 77% of passes ... we should probably focus on the real problem yesterday: The Defense. Who didn't show up and allowed Winston/Martin to hold the ball for 35 minutes, earn 24 first downs, and convert 68% of 3rd downs (league average is 40%).

Against the Bucs...
Alex Smith: 1 INT, 99 QB rating
Philip Rivers: 2 INTs, 80 QB rating
Russell Wilson: 2 INTs, 39 QB rating
Drew Brees: 3 INTs, 49 QB rating

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 11-30-2016, 07:28 AM

Fun fact... Against the blitz this year and in 2015, Smith's QB rating is 101

On those 72 pass attempts in 2016... Just 3 sacks and 1 pick. 4 touchdowns.

threebag · 11-30-2016, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz

Out throwing game misses Green and/or Montana too...

GloryHolz they had their running games

Molitoth · 11-30-2016, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Dinny Bossa Nova

threebag, you're a real swell guy and all, but look here. We're all proud of our wives and stuff but you GOT to do somethin' bout that avatar, and I ain't even jokin' a little bit.

Imona PM Bob Dole.

Somebody start a poll.

Can I get a AMEN! from the cheap seats?

Dinny

Hah. While I think threebag is one of the dumbest shitbags on this forum, I have been able to deal with his reeruned opinions and toss him an argument.

It wasn't until I got so sick of his avatar that I finally put him on ignore. If I wanted to see that kind of shit, I'd take a trip to walmart.

GloryDayz · 11-30-2016, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by threebag02

GloryHolz they had their running games

Yes, and Roaf, Waters, Wiegmann, Shields, and Tait too. So them, and Priest/LJ, and Trent's great arm were all part of a winning combination.

Molitoth · 11-30-2016, 08:10 AM

I'm sure most of us here have had Childhood football heroes such as Jim Brown, Barry Sanders, Jerry Rice, Joe Montana, etc..

Anyone else think it's sad that TigerUppercut is absolutely obsessed with Alex Smith?
The poor kid needs to get out more.

I remember a couple people here that were the exact same way with Matt Cassel, defending every bad play. Your doom is on it's way Tiger.

**Lzen** · 11-30-2016, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

You looking at this?

https://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/s...rcentage/2016/

Albert Wilson only has 3 drops? I find that hard to believe.

It only credits Maclin with 1 drop. I know that is not accurate. I believe he had at least 2 or 3 just against the Texans. I know he's had other games where he dropped passes.

**Tribal Warfare** · 11-30-2016, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz

I might say Elway has a better eye for talent and demands production. Minimally they have a very small tolerance for not performing at a high level. I'd like to see a lot more of that. Much like New England, you do your job or your gone.

Shit, Elway has an ear piece in so he can listen to plays while he's in GM suite when he's watching the game.

Pasta Little Brioni · 11-30-2016, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Prevent inside the 20 huh? I would have thought as long as you have been a member here you would have learned something by now. I suggest putting Tiger on iggy. Your football IQ will be better off for it.

Well you were the dipshit who lied about Denver running the coverage...or you're a simpleton

Sandy Vagina · 11-30-2016, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth

I'm sure most of us here have had Childhood football heroes such as Jim Brown, Barry Sanders, Jerry Rice, Joe Montana, etc..

Anyone else think it's sad that TigerUppercut is absolutely obsessed with Alex Smith?
The poor kid needs to get out more.

I remember a couple people here that were the exact same way with Matt Cassel, defending every bad play. Your doom is on it's way Tiger.

If it is an obsession, then it goes both ways. Which means, the haters are equally obsessed with Smith, and the people that disagree with just how much he sucks. If the hate was limited, so too would be the defense against the hate.

Sandy Vagina · 11-30-2016, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

Albert Wilson only has 3 drops? I find that hard to believe.

It only credits Maclin with 1 drop. I know that is not accurate. I believe he had at least 2 or 3 just against the Texans. I know he's had other games where he dropped passes.

yeah, that's ****ing reeruned. Like others allude to..

The player must be wide open, have the ball hit him in both hands no higher than their helmet, and clunk off onto the turf.. for some of these sources to label them as drops.

**loochy** · 11-30-2016, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

If it is an obsession, then it goes both ways. Which means, the haters are equally obsessed with Smith, and the people that disagree with just how much he sucks. If the hate was limited, so too would be the defense against the hate.

Yeah, but he actually does suck...that's why you see the flood of dislike.

rico · 11-30-2016, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

If it is an obsession, then it goes both ways. Which means, the haters are equally obsessed with Smith, and the people that disagree with just how much he sucks. If the hate was limited, so too would be the defense against the hate.

The haters.

I have been pretty vocal that I wish the Chiefs had a different QB...I'm not a fan of Alex at all. I don't hate the guy or anything, though. Just dislike him as our QB. The guy wins....he comes through sometimes (seemingly) whatever....I'd rather win with someone else...I can't help, but doubt Alex Smith like, 97% of the time he is out there. His style of play just drives me nuts...I never have faith in the offense and I hate that.... I wish we still had prime Jamaal.

It's his super-fanboys that I hate!!! They drive me up a wall, yo!!!!

Don't they drive you nuts as well, Sandy?!??!?!?

When I see an Alex lover post, I immediately turn into this:

Sandy Vagina · 11-30-2016, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy

Yeah, but he actually does suck...that's why you see the flood of dislike.

If this were true, then Andy Reid must be the dumbest mofo in pro sports.. and Dorsey, the dumbest mofo of a GM... which means KC is screwed anyway.

So, not much of a limb to climb out on to say... your assessment is what actually sucks.

I don't think Smith is great or is playing as well as he should be this season... but to say he sucks is a clear and incredible exaggeration.

Red Dawg · 11-30-2016, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by rico

The haters.

I have been pretty vocal that I wish the Chiefs had a different QB...I'm not a fan of Alex at all. I don't hate the guy or anything, though. Just dislike him as our QB. The guy wins....he comes through sometimes (seemingly) whatever....I'd rather win with someone else...I can't help, but doubt Alex Smith like, 97% of the time he is out there. His style of play just drives me nuts...I never have faith in the offense and I hate that.... I wish we still had prime Jamaal.

It's his super-fanboys that I hate!!! They drive me up a wall, yo!!!!

Don't they drive you nuts as well, Sandy?!??!?!?

When I see an Alex lover post, I immediately turn into this:

I feel the same way each game.

**loochy** · 11-30-2016, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

If this were true, then Andy Reid must be the dumbest mofo in pro sports.. and Dorsey, the dumbest mofo of a GM... which means KC is screwed anyway.

So, not much of a limb to climb out on to say... your assessment is what actually sucks.

I don't think Smith is great or is playing as well as he should be this season... but to say he sucks is a clear and incredible exaggeration.

not dumb, but stuck

they tried, he's not awesome, he's regressing, they don't feel their other options right now are any better

we'll see what they do in the offseason

11-21-2016, 09:33 AM
TigeRRUppeRRcut Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: 19th Hole Casino cash: $10004725	Alex Smith is a solid QB, sorry haters. Bucs win 5th game in a row. Despite the common thought here that Alex Smith held down the team Sunday, Smith's overall production to the team yesterday graded out very positive in 3 rankings: Smith: QBR 94.1, QB rating 99, PFF 71.9 Winston: QBR 83.6, QB rating 97, PFF 50.7 https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro...-for-bucs-win/ "Smith gained positive expected points (EPA) on 77 percent of his plays on Sunday, the second-highest rate for a QB in a game this season (Dak Prescott, 83 percent versus Chicago in Week 3). Put simply, more than three-fourths of his plays contributed to the team’s scoring margin, given the context and situation." - http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/p...s-excels-again This is why we should use our brains instead of repeating the garbage fed to us by Mellinger and Teicher. If Smith only had 34 plays yesterday to do something with the ball and earns both a rushing and passing TD, a FG, to 1 INT (first red zone interception since 2013) and completes an outstanding 77% of passes ... we should probably focus on the real problem yesterday: The Defense. Who didn't show up and allowed Winston/Martin to hold the ball for 35 minutes, earn 24 first downs, and convert 68% of 3rd downs (league average is 40%). Against the Bucs... Alex Smith: 1 INT, 99 QB rating Philip Rivers: 2 INTs, 80 QB rating Russell Wilson: 2 INTs, 39 QB rating Drew Brees: 3 INTs, 49 QB rating Last edited by TigeRRUppeRRcut; 12-11-2016 at 09:10 PM..
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11-30-2016, 07:28 AM	#931
TigeRRUppeRRcut Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: 19th Hole Casino cash: $10004725	Fun fact... Against the blitz this year and in 2015, Smith's QB rating is 101 On those 72 pass attempts in 2016... Just 3 sacks and 1 pick. 4 touchdowns.
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11-30-2016, 08:10 AM	#935
Molitoth Mahomes Fanboi Join Date: Apr 2004 Casino cash: $164969	I'm sure most of us here have had Childhood football heroes such as Jim Brown, Barry Sanders, Jerry Rice, Joe Montana, etc.. Anyone else think it's sad that TigerUppercut is absolutely obsessed with Alex Smith? The poor kid needs to get out more. I remember a couple people here that were the exact same way with Matt Cassel, defending every bad play. Your doom is on it's way Tiger.
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