Chiefs Alex Smith was not the problem Sunday, sorry haters. - Page 72

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 09:10 PM

Despite the common thought here that Alex Smith held down the team Sunday, Smith's overall production to the team yesterday graded out very positive in 3 rankings:
Smith: QBR 94.1, QB rating 99, PFF 71.9
Winston: QBR 83.6, QB rating 97, PFF 50.7

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro...-for-bucs-win/

"Smith gained positive expected points (EPA) on 77 percent of his plays on Sunday, the second-highest rate for a QB in a game this season (Dak Prescott, 83 percent versus Chicago in Week 3). Put simply, more than three-fourths of his plays contributed to the team’s scoring margin, given the context and situation." - http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/p...s-excels-again

This is why we should use our brains instead of repeating the garbage fed to us by Mellinger and Teicher. If Smith only had 34 plays yesterday to do something with the ball and earns both a rushing and passing TD, a FG, to 1 INT (first red zone interception since 2013) and completes an outstanding 77% of passes ... we should probably focus on the real problem yesterday: The Defense. Who didn't show up and allowed Winston/Martin to hold the ball for 35 minutes, earn 24 first downs, and convert 68% of 3rd downs (league average is 40%).

Against the Bucs...
Alex Smith: 1 INT, 99 QB rating
Philip Rivers: 2 INTs, 80 QB rating
Russell Wilson: 2 INTs, 39 QB rating
Drew Brees: 3 INTs, 49 QB rating

dls6501 · 12-01-2016, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

You look at tight ends and receivers he has to throw to and it makes you nervous to give him a contract despite those numbers cause you have no idea what he'll be like with average talent around him.
He doesn't pass the eye test when you compare him to Dak, Russell, Luck

And his record is just 6-4-1

Holy s*** you cant be serious with this. This is basically the exact argument a lot of us make with Alex Smith. Absolutely comical that you use it for Cousins. SMFH.

**The Franchise** · 12-01-2016, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by dls6501

Holy s*** you cant be serious with this. This is basically the exact argument a lot of us make with Alex Smith. Absolutely comical that you use it for Cousins. SMFH.

He's a troll. Let it go.

threebag · 12-01-2016, 11:57 AM

His receiving corps seem to have softer hands than the stones our seem to have. Kelce and Harris drop the shit out of some passes.

Molitoth · 12-01-2016, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

You look at tight ends and receivers he has to throw to and it makes you nervous to give him a contract despite those numbers cause you have no idea what he'll be like with average talent around him.
He doesn't pass the eye test when you compare him to Dak, Russell, Luck

And his record is just 6-4-1

Like anyone here besides threebag gives a shit about your eye test...

threebag · 12-01-2016, 12:02 PM

I bet a few teams would like to have him as their signal caller.

Yeah we could be better, but we could also be worse.

It's Alex's train we are just along for the ride.

ChiefsCountry · 12-01-2016, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rico

I can't remember a supporting cast being so detrimental to a QB's play in a long time.

Alex Smith's supporting casts are always detrimental every week according to the Alexuals.

**Tribal Warfare** · 12-01-2016, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Alex Smith's supporting casts are always detrimental every week according to the Alexuals.

Alex JUST WINS!!!!!!!! So anything else including supporting cast is an excuse when KC loses.

rico · 12-01-2016, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Alex Smith's supporting casts are always detrimental every week according to the Alexuals.

If Alex had ever experienced anything like Barkley did Sunday, his Alexuals would be in insane asylums and pumped hard with some Haldol or Risperdal right now.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 12-01-2016, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

He only presently has average talent to throw to.

Garcon, Jackson and Reed isn't exactly Rice, Taylor and Jones. Hell, it's not clearly better than Maclin, Kelce and Hill.

For me it's a system question more than anything. Can he adapt to a WC scheme and only tape review can tell you that. I'm just not well informed enough to make a strong statement there.

But money and term sure favors the draft pick...

He has experienced guys all over the field including Vernon Davis who found his mojo. Reed is easily a top 5 tight end, crowder is a solid #2

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 12-01-2016, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dls6501

Holy s*** you cant be serious with this. This is basically the exact argument a lot of us make with Alex Smith. Absolutely comical that you use it for Cousins. SMFH.

Reed and Kelce are practically a push. Garcon and Davis are two additional big body receivers. Then you add Jackson and Crowder top the mix... How does that even compare to anything we have add this season with Maclin nursing an injury?

Harris isn't anywhere on the level of Davis or Reed. Quit kidding yourself. Albert Wilson better than desean Jackson?

Again, common sense

BoneKrusher · 12-01-2016, 01:53 PM

She's not a deep passer but I like the fact that Alice Smith has a winning record as the Chief QB.

BigCatDaddy · 12-01-2016, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rico

That guy won me over last week.

I love that "you like that!" clip of him...

Sorry can't embed from phone.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bsB7UQ8BlE0

Much better than wearing a diaper pin.

**jjchieffan** · 12-01-2016, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Who needs a QB:

Steelers - No
Browns - Yes
Bengals - No
Ravens - Maybe

Titans - No
Texans - No (contract)
Colts - No
Jags - Maybe but I'm going to go with No

Broncos - No
Chargers - No
Raiders - No
Chiefs - Maybe but we're not talking about them right now.

Patriots - No
Bills - Maybe
Jets - Yes
Dolphins - Tannehill has been playing better as of late....so I'll go no.

Cowboys - No
Giants - Maybe
Eagles - No
Redskins - Yes (although they could always just give Cousins a contract)

Falcons - No
Saints - No
Bucs - No
Panthers - No

Seahawks - No
Cardinals - Yes
49ers - Yes
Rams - No

Vikings - Maybe
Packers - No
Lions - No
Bears - Yes

So that's 6 teams who absolutely need one and 6 teams who might need to start looking at one.

Drew Brees is 37 years old. Why are the Saints not listed as needing to start looking for a quarterback?

**The Franchise** · 12-01-2016, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan

Drew Brees is 37 years old. Why are the Saints not listed as needing to start looking for a quarterback?

Brees just signed a contract extension, he's said that he'll keep playing and their cap space is shit. That team needs to add other pieces around him for them to be a viable playoff team.

threebag · 12-01-2016, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan

Drew Brees is 37 years old. Why are the Saints not listed as needing to start looking for a quarterback?

Because he has good stats

11-21-2016, 09:33 AM
TigeRRUppeRRcut Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: 19th Hole Casino cash: $10004725	Alex Smith is a solid QB, sorry haters. Bucs win 5th game in a row. Despite the common thought here that Alex Smith held down the team Sunday, Smith's overall production to the team yesterday graded out very positive in 3 rankings: Smith: QBR 94.1, QB rating 99, PFF 71.9 Winston: QBR 83.6, QB rating 97, PFF 50.7 https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro...-for-bucs-win/ "Smith gained positive expected points (EPA) on 77 percent of his plays on Sunday, the second-highest rate for a QB in a game this season (Dak Prescott, 83 percent versus Chicago in Week 3). Put simply, more than three-fourths of his plays contributed to the team’s scoring margin, given the context and situation." - http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/p...s-excels-again This is why we should use our brains instead of repeating the garbage fed to us by Mellinger and Teicher. If Smith only had 34 plays yesterday to do something with the ball and earns both a rushing and passing TD, a FG, to 1 INT (first red zone interception since 2013) and completes an outstanding 77% of passes ... we should probably focus on the real problem yesterday: The Defense. Who didn't show up and allowed Winston/Martin to hold the ball for 35 minutes, earn 24 first downs, and convert 68% of 3rd downs (league average is 40%). Against the Bucs... Alex Smith: 1 INT, 99 QB rating Philip Rivers: 2 INTs, 80 QB rating Russell Wilson: 2 INTs, 39 QB rating Drew Brees: 3 INTs, 49 QB rating Last edited by TigeRRUppeRRcut; 12-11-2016 at 09:10 PM..
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threebag Snacks Are Under My Apron Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Edge Casino cash: $-1152380	His receiving corps seem to have softer hands than the stones our seem to have. Kelce and Harris drop the shit out of some passes. __________________ Smells like Up Dog in here. RIP HayWire Greatest Almost Mod Ever
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threebag Snacks Are Under My Apron Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Edge Casino cash: $-1152380	I bet a few teams would like to have him as their signal caller. Yeah we could be better, but we could also be worse. It's Alex's train we are just along for the ride. __________________ Smells like Up Dog in here. RIP HayWire Greatest Almost Mod Ever
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