Chiefs Alex Smith was not the problem Sunday, sorry haters. - Page 92

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 09:10 PM

Despite the common thought here that Alex Smith held down the team Sunday, Smith's overall production to the team yesterday graded out very positive in 3 rankings:
Smith: QBR 94.1, QB rating 99, PFF 71.9
Winston: QBR 83.6, QB rating 97, PFF 50.7

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro...-for-bucs-win/

"Smith gained positive expected points (EPA) on 77 percent of his plays on Sunday, the second-highest rate for a QB in a game this season (Dak Prescott, 83 percent versus Chicago in Week 3). Put simply, more than three-fourths of his plays contributed to the team’s scoring margin, given the context and situation." - http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/p...s-excels-again

This is why we should use our brains instead of repeating the garbage fed to us by Mellinger and Teicher. If Smith only had 34 plays yesterday to do something with the ball and earns both a rushing and passing TD, a FG, to 1 INT (first red zone interception since 2013) and completes an outstanding 77% of passes ... we should probably focus on the real problem yesterday: The Defense. Who didn't show up and allowed Winston/Martin to hold the ball for 35 minutes, earn 24 first downs, and convert 68% of 3rd downs (league average is 40%).

Against the Bucs...
Alex Smith: 1 INT, 99 QB rating
Philip Rivers: 2 INTs, 80 QB rating
Russell Wilson: 2 INTs, 39 QB rating
Drew Brees: 3 INTs, 49 QB rating

**notorious** · 12-19-2016, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

Meltdown with me Glory and notorio...

In the past I would join in on the "fun". It's just not worth the effort.

Might as well just pop in some Z Nation and enjoy a real train wreck.

Pasta Little Brioni · 12-19-2016, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious

In the past I would join in on the "fun". It's just not worth the effort.

Might as well just pop in some Z Nation and enjoy a real train wreck.

I would rather watch an alternating Z Nation/Johnny Tsunami 30 day marathon than watch another Alex led Chiefs game ..

Scaga · 12-19-2016, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Rivermike87

Dude it was because of the play calling that we lost. Conservative and playing not to lose backfired big time yesterday and as much as I have respect for Reid you gotta be more aggressive when it comes putting teams away. Titans just stole one from the chiefs yesterday

So on every pass play that is called, the coaches tell Alice to stare down a single receiver? He's not allowed to audible? He can't scramble? He can't thrown the f'n ball in the stands? Hummmm....must be different from every other team. Yes, the play calling sucked and was ultra conservative, but not putting any of the blame on Grbac 2.0 is just wrong.

**notorious** · 12-19-2016, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

I would rather watch an alternating Z Nation/Johnny Tsunami 30 day marathon than watch another Alex led Chiefs game ..

Jesus.

Pasta Little Brioni · 12-19-2016, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious

Jesus.

When I realized how little I care anymore, it hit me

Pasta Little Brioni · 12-19-2016, 10:04 AM

Unleash the Clayken!!!

BigCatDaddy · 12-19-2016, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

Unleash the Clayken!!!

I'm sure he has s*** sandwiches already prepared for those that oppose him

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 12-19-2016, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Scaga

So on every pass play that is called, the coaches tell Alice to stare down a single receiver? He's not allowed to audible? He can't scramble? He can't thrown the f'n ball in the stands? Hummmm....must be different from every other team. Yes, the play calling sucked and was ultra conservative, but not putting any of the blame on Grbac 2.0 is just wrong.

Reid even said in the TB game the INT was a single read play.

When Smith runs a hurry up offense like in SD and Denver he does exceptionally well. He is just being a good soldier. Although yesterday he was off target on a lot of intermediate throws but then again who wouldn't be in those conditions. Mariota was misfiring often too

Pasta Little Brioni · 12-19-2016, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

I'm sure he has s*** sandwiches already prepared for those that oppose him

sure he has a few on stand by

Rivermike87 · 12-19-2016, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Scaga

So on every pass play that is called, the coaches tell Alice to stare down a single receiver? He's not allowed to audible? He can't scramble? He can't thrown the f'n ball in the stands? Hummmm....must be different from every other team. Yes, the play calling sucked and was ultra conservative, but not putting any of the blame on Grbac 2.0 is just wrong.

But I'm talking about overall the thing that killed the chiefs is the very conservative nature this team has when having the lead in the last two quarters. Believe me I'm a Alex smith fan and I'll defend him to death but with the conservatism mixed in with Andy Reid's decision making is not a good combo. But we see when Reid is overly aggressive and attacks this offense good so I don't know why we don't do so more often

FloridaMan88 · 12-19-2016, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Rivermike87

Dude it was because of the play calling that we lost. Conservative and playing not to lose backfired big time yesterday and as much as I have respect for Reid you gotta be more aggressive when it comes putting teams away. Titans just stole one from the chiefs yesterday

It is hard to be more aggressive when you have a QB who apparently can't read the most basic of coverages and forces a game killing INT into the end zone.

Pasta Little Brioni · 12-19-2016, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

It is hard to be more aggressive when you have a QB who apparently can't read the most basic of coverages and forces a game killing INT into the end zone.

For the second time against an average team

Sandy Vagina · 12-19-2016, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

And it's hilarious, that so many who think they are so shitty, yet still expect them to win, and meltdown over every loss.

They've lost four games not playing their best football. FOUR.

This season isn't over.

Well said.

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Originally Posted by bobbything

Sometimes they look really aggressive, then others they look like they're simply trying to protect the ball and punt. It's very strange.

I just don't think Reid is particularly good at basic football scheming. Everything he does involves a lot of trickery and decoys and misdirection. Sometimes it works well. But when every play is the swinging gate, it ceases to become effective.

nailed it.

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Originally Posted by Rivermike87

with the conservatism mixed in with Andy Reid's decision making is not a good combo. But we see when Reid is overly aggressive and attacks this offense good so I don't know why we don't do so more often

Yep.

I'm getting back to thinking this is the last football season for Alex. If he loses faith that Andy can ever adjust his philosophy, then he will likely conclude that he's both wasting his efforts, and risking his health for nothing.

So there's still hope, people.

**The Franchise** · 12-19-2016, 10:22 AM

Yeah....Smith is going to lose faith that Reid won't change his philosophy.

RippedmyFlesh · 12-19-2016, 10:23 AM

There is no hope for a ring while smith is qb. I would give reid another shot with a different qb before I passed judgement on him.

11-21-2016, 09:33 AM
TigeRRUppeRRcut Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: 19th Hole Casino cash: $10004725	Alex Smith is a solid QB, sorry haters. Bucs win 5th game in a row. Despite the common thought here that Alex Smith held down the team Sunday, Smith's overall production to the team yesterday graded out very positive in 3 rankings: Smith: QBR 94.1, QB rating 99, PFF 71.9 Winston: QBR 83.6, QB rating 97, PFF 50.7 https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro...-for-bucs-win/ "Smith gained positive expected points (EPA) on 77 percent of his plays on Sunday, the second-highest rate for a QB in a game this season (Dak Prescott, 83 percent versus Chicago in Week 3). Put simply, more than three-fourths of his plays contributed to the team’s scoring margin, given the context and situation." - http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/p...s-excels-again This is why we should use our brains instead of repeating the garbage fed to us by Mellinger and Teicher. If Smith only had 34 plays yesterday to do something with the ball and earns both a rushing and passing TD, a FG, to 1 INT (first red zone interception since 2013) and completes an outstanding 77% of passes ... we should probably focus on the real problem yesterday: The Defense. Who didn't show up and allowed Winston/Martin to hold the ball for 35 minutes, earn 24 first downs, and convert 68% of 3rd downs (league average is 40%). Against the Bucs... Alex Smith: 1 INT, 99 QB rating Philip Rivers: 2 INTs, 80 QB rating Russell Wilson: 2 INTs, 39 QB rating Drew Brees: 3 INTs, 49 QB rating Last edited by TigeRRUppeRRcut; 12-11-2016 at 09:10 PM..
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