Chiefs Alex Smith was not the problem Sunday, sorry haters. - Page 112

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 09:10 PM

Despite the common thought here that Alex Smith held down the team Sunday, Smith's overall production to the team yesterday graded out very positive in 3 rankings:
Smith: QBR 94.1, QB rating 99, PFF 71.9
Winston: QBR 83.6, QB rating 97, PFF 50.7

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro...-for-bucs-win/

"Smith gained positive expected points (EPA) on 77 percent of his plays on Sunday, the second-highest rate for a QB in a game this season (Dak Prescott, 83 percent versus Chicago in Week 3). Put simply, more than three-fourths of his plays contributed to the team’s scoring margin, given the context and situation." - http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/p...s-excels-again

This is why we should use our brains instead of repeating the garbage fed to us by Mellinger and Teicher. If Smith only had 34 plays yesterday to do something with the ball and earns both a rushing and passing TD, a FG, to 1 INT (first red zone interception since 2013) and completes an outstanding 77% of passes ... we should probably focus on the real problem yesterday: The Defense. Who didn't show up and allowed Winston/Martin to hold the ball for 35 minutes, earn 24 first downs, and convert 68% of 3rd downs (league average is 40%).

Against the Bucs...
Alex Smith: 1 INT, 99 QB rating
Philip Rivers: 2 INTs, 80 QB rating
Russell Wilson: 2 INTs, 39 QB rating
Drew Brees: 3 INTs, 49 QB rating

**The Franchise** · 12-23-2016, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

I think most QB play... good or bad... is conducive to playcalling. Particularly when the playcalling consists of so many sideways plays that have proven to be useless. Particularly when the ball is not going to your clear and proven playmakers.

Is Alex a good enough QB to overcome the playcalling? Though the win column suggests yes.. I think we all can see past that a bit.

I'm still locked in on Andy being the clear frontrunner of offensive problems.

Until he cuts the offense loose for entire games (within reason), and we see Alex sink or swim on this approach, Andy Reid remains the prime suspect.

So.....Reid's fault? Got it.

Mr. Plow · 12-23-2016, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Snica

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**Rausch** · 12-23-2016, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

So.....Reid's fault? Got it.

Yes...

Sweet Daddy Hate · 12-23-2016, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

I think most QB play... good or bad... is conducive to playcalling. Particularly when the playcalling consists of so many sideways plays that have proven to be useless. Particularly when the ball is not going to your clear and proven playmakers.

Is Alex a good enough QB to overcome the playcalling? Though the win column suggests yes.. I think we all can see past that a bit.

I'm still locked in on Andy being the clear frontrunner of offensive problems.

Until he cuts the offense loose for entire games (within reason), and we see Alex sink or swim on this approach, Andy Reid remains the prime suspect.

Now that Smith no longer runs, the offense has really taken a nose-dive.

I'm beginning to understand Sacc's wisdom in wanting to acquire an RB in round 1, though that usually is not the way most teams would go. With no dynamic threat in the backfield, the Chiefs offense doesn't stand much chance of getting back to it's best performance in this particular era of the franchise.

**Rausch** · 12-23-2016, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Dagnabit

Now that Smith no longer runs, the offense has really taken a nose-dive.

He added about 300 yards a season to the offense with his running game. Usually short scrambles for 1st downs.

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Originally Posted by Dagnabit

I'm beginning to understand Sacc's wisdom in wanting to acquire an RB in round 1, though that usually is not the way most teams would go. With no dynamic threat in the backfield, the Chiefs offense doesn't stand much chance of getting back to it's best performance in this particular era of the franchise.

Our backfield is fine. And is definitely dynamic.

Our offensive line is dog$3it and our HC makes terrible game time decisions...

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 12-23-2016, 11:46 AM

Offense took a nosedive? We have the same total yards/game as last season. 331 yards/game.

Fact.

Can't wait to see how you move the goalposts this time.

**The Franchise** · 12-23-2016, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Offense took a nosedive? We have the same total yards/game as last season. 331 yards/game.

Fact.

Can't wait to see how you move the goalposts this time.

Hard to take a nosedive when your nose is already in the shit.

Our $17M a year, franchise QB is leading the 23rd overall offense.

Sandy Vagina · 12-23-2016, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Hard to take a nosedive when your nose is already in the shit.

Our $17M a year, franchise QB is leading the 23rd overall offense.

23rd in what? yardage? That would appear to be what you base that ranking on.

So let me ask you this, and keep it real...

The defense.. in yardage.. is ranked 26th in yards given up.

Tell me, is this a fair representation of how awful the defense is?

**The Franchise** · 12-23-2016, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

23rd in what? yardage? That would appear to be what you base that ranking on.

So let me ask you this, and keep it real...

The defense.. in yardage.. is ranked 26th in yards given up.

Tell me, is this a fair representation of how awful the defense is?

How many points has the offense scored versus what the defense has scored?

EDIT: And I'm only using yardage because that's what reerunBob brought up.

Sandy Vagina · 12-23-2016, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

How many points has the offense scored versus what the defense has scored?

EDIT: And I'm only using yardage because that's what reerunBob brought up.

so you agree that to judge the O off of yardage is as dumb as judging the D on yardage... yes?

**The Franchise** · 12-23-2016, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

so you agree that to judge the O off of yardage is as dumb as judging the D on yardage... yes?

How about this?

Offensive Points - 164
Defense/STs Points - 152

CupidStunt · 12-23-2016, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

How about this?

Offensive Points - 164
Defense/STs Points - 152

BigCatDaddy · 12-23-2016, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

How about this?

Offensive Points - 164
Defense/STs Points - 152

That cant be real?

Sandy Vagina · 12-23-2016, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

How about this?

Offensive Points - 164
Defense/STs Points - 152

so you are not going to directly answer my question... and here, I thought it time for genuine discussion. Guess not?

**The Franchise** · 12-23-2016, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

so you are not going to directly answer my question... and here, I thought it time for genuine discussion. Guess not?

I just did. If you think that knocking the offense for yards and not knocking the defense is wrong......I'm not doing that. Our defense has always been known as a bend but don't break defense that will give up yards but not give up points. Hence why we are 28th in yards.....but something like 9th in points.

Now argue why our offense has only scored 12 more points than our defense and STs.

11-21-2016, 09:33 AM
TigeRRUppeRRcut Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: 19th Hole Casino cash: $10004725	Alex Smith is a solid QB, sorry haters. Bucs win 5th game in a row. Despite the common thought here that Alex Smith held down the team Sunday, Smith's overall production to the team yesterday graded out very positive in 3 rankings: Smith: QBR 94.1, QB rating 99, PFF 71.9 Winston: QBR 83.6, QB rating 97, PFF 50.7 https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro...-for-bucs-win/ "Smith gained positive expected points (EPA) on 77 percent of his plays on Sunday, the second-highest rate for a QB in a game this season (Dak Prescott, 83 percent versus Chicago in Week 3). Put simply, more than three-fourths of his plays contributed to the team’s scoring margin, given the context and situation." - http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/p...s-excels-again This is why we should use our brains instead of repeating the garbage fed to us by Mellinger and Teicher. If Smith only had 34 plays yesterday to do something with the ball and earns both a rushing and passing TD, a FG, to 1 INT (first red zone interception since 2013) and completes an outstanding 77% of passes ... we should probably focus on the real problem yesterday: The Defense. Who didn't show up and allowed Winston/Martin to hold the ball for 35 minutes, earn 24 first downs, and convert 68% of 3rd downs (league average is 40%). Against the Bucs... Alex Smith: 1 INT, 99 QB rating Philip Rivers: 2 INTs, 80 QB rating Russell Wilson: 2 INTs, 39 QB rating Drew Brees: 3 INTs, 49 QB rating Last edited by TigeRRUppeRRcut; 12-11-2016 at 09:10 PM..
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12-23-2016, 11:46 AM	#1671
TigeRRUppeRRcut Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: 19th Hole Casino cash: $10004725	Offense took a nosedive? We have the same total yards/game as last season. 331 yards/game. Fact. Can't wait to see how you move the goalposts this time.
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