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Old 03-08-2017, 09:56 AM  
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Chiefs tender Cairo Santos
Chiefs extended an original-pick tender to restricted free agent K Cairo Santos.

Santos won the Chiefs' kicker job as an UDFA in 2014. If he plays on the tender, he'll earn $1.797 million in 2017. Santos made a career-high 88.6 percent of his field goals last season and nailed 36-of-39 extra points.
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Old 03-08-2017, 11:32 AM   #16
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You better hope that doesn't happen.

McManus received an 2nd round tender as well... I think that's the path you take with kickers in today's salar cap era. Puts his # for 2017 around $2.7M, nice bump from $600k.
Well they put an original round tender on him, and he was an UDFA. So the Chiefs get nothing in return if he departs, basically making him a FA where the Chiefs have first refusal.

I think Santos will be gone.
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Old 03-08-2017, 11:47 AM   #17
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Old 03-08-2017, 12:01 PM   #18
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Well they put an original round tender on him, and he was an UDFA. So the Chiefs get nothing in return if he departs, basically making him a FA where the Chiefs have first refusal.

I think Santos will be gone.
Wonder what they've set as their bar to match. The top 11 kickers make $2m.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/average/kicker/
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Old 03-08-2017, 03:36 PM   #19
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Well they put an original round tender on him, and he was an UDFA. So the Chiefs get nothing in return if he departs, basically making him a FA where the Chiefs have first refusal.

I think Santos will be gone.
Who is going to sign Carlos Santos?
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Old 03-08-2017, 03:50 PM   #20
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Who is going to sign Carlos Santos?
Eagles maybe.
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Old 03-08-2017, 04:02 PM   #21
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i'm gonna go out on a limb and speculate nobody is going to offer Carlos Santos > $1.797M, or any long term deal that pays him that much on average.
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Old 03-08-2017, 04:13 PM   #22
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i'm gonna go out on a limb and speculate nobody is going to offer Carlos Santos > $1.797M, or any long term deal that pays him that much on average.
It's a weird position; it's like goalies in hockey in that you know when your sucks badly but it seems like nobody ever wants to spend what it takes to get a better one because they're seen as largely fungible unless they're truly elite.

There's a thing called the Endowment Effect (my preferred terminology is 'divestiture aversion' because it makes me sound smarter). It says that someone is willing to give up less to acquire an item than they would be willing to give that item up for if they already had it.

I think you see that a lot with these fringier players. If a GM had Cairo Santos on their team, they'd be willing to spend $2 million to keep him. But since they don't presently have Cairo Santos, they're not going to be willing to spend that $2 million to acquire him.

I don't expect anyone's going to 'snipe' Cairo Santos but at the same time, I don't think there's any question that the Chiefs, unless they're really over a barrel, will match what contract he's offered. It's a pretty close off-shoot of the endowment effect.
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Old 03-08-2017, 04:24 PM   #23
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I don't get into all the details of all the rules and so forth but I have a question. Can Santos accept the offer and sign a contract basically taking himself off the open market?
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I don't get into all the details of all the rules and so forth but I have a question. Can Santos accept the offer and sign a contract basically taking himself off the open market?
He doesn't have to do anything if he wants to stay with the Chiefs. He can get paid his 2nd round tender and play for us. It's just there so that he can go out and talk to other teams. If they choose to offer him a deal, then we would have a chance to match....or they have to give us their 2nd round pick.
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Old 03-08-2017, 05:21 PM   #25
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He doesn't have to do anything if he wants to stay with the Chiefs. He can get paid his 2nd round tender and play for us. It's just there so that he can go out and talk to other teams. If they choose to offer him a deal, then we would have a chance to match....or they have to give us their 2nd round pick.
Id take a 2nd for Santos. Hes good, but not irreplaceable or anything.
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We would get a 2nd for Sorenson, nothing for losing Santos.
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Yeah shit...that's my bad. I was typing about Santos and thinking about Sorensen's deal.
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If I was a team in the AFC west with tons of cap room I would buy up santos just to set the Chiefs back a bit and have to worry about a rookie kicker missing. If they went rookie on the kicker. You could bring another vet in but would probably cost you more or the same to keep Santos. Funny, kickers can make or break a game for you but they get paid shit compared to others. To add lol this team def needs a good kicker with AS at the helm.
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