Chiefs Chiefs sign Bennie Logan - Page 17

Urc Burry · 03-13-2017, 01:18 PM

Per Terez... 1 year deal

staylor26 · 03-14-2017, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Jones tends to get pushed around vs the run. Hopefully a full offseason in the system gets that figured out.

I follow him on his instagram and the guys been working out like crazy since the season ended. He wants to be great.

RunKC · 03-14-2017, 01:40 PM

I love what this guy brings to the front 7, but 2 down run stuffers usually have a market of roughly $4 million a year for their services.

We are in the nickel roughly 65% of the time or more. If we're up against a good passing team, then that's like 80% of the time. It really doesn't make sense to pay Howard, Bailey and Logan big $$ and have one or even 2 of those guys off the field a lot. You have Chris Jones, who is has to be a starter in both normal formation and nickel, then you have all 3 of these paid vets for 1 spot.

So we're overpaying for depth? Maybe bc of what happened last year? Why not just cut Bailey or Howard and bring back Reyes back on a small deal?

Mother****erJones · 03-14-2017, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

"HOW DOES BILL BELICHICK DO IT YEAR AFTER YEAR!?!?!?!"

{looks for $10 million in punters and backup QBs on roster....sees none}

Oh.

Has the HOF QB. Doesn't need those. KC on the other hand...

Mother****erJones · 03-14-2017, 01:42 PM

Chris Jones needs to be on the field as much as possible. Also, this DL needs to ****ing perform. They were so bad last season when they were all healthy and playing. Run defense needs to get a lot better. They were good in short yardage though.

DJ's left nut · 03-14-2017, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

Chris Jones needs to be on the field as much as possible. Also, this DL needs to ****ing perform. They were so bad last season when they were all healthy and playing. Run defense needs to get a lot better. They were good in short yardage though.

Worse than bad, they were disinterested.

It showed from the first snap of the first pre-season game. Howard looked like he was mailing it in because he didn't get paid like he thought he should, Poe looked like he was saving himself for something (damn sure wasn't the playoffs) and Bailey just looked like the same Bailey that plateaued 3 years ago.

Their no-show against the Patriots carried right over into the next season and it wasn't until Jones and guys like RNR got a little run that the unit showed any energy at all.

The down linemen were massive disappointments last year. That said, I still don't think the answer is overpaying another DL.

Mother****erJones · 03-14-2017, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Worse than bad, they were disinterested.

It showed from the first snap of the first pre-season game. Howard looked like he was mailing it in because he didn't get paid like he thought he should, Poe looked like he was saving himself for something (damn sure wasn't the playoffs) and Bailey just looked like the same Bailey that plateaued 3 years ago.

Their no-show against the Patriots carried right over into the next season and it wasn't until Jones and guys like RNR got a little run that the unit showed any energy at all.

The down linemen were massive disappointments last year. That said, I still don't think the answer is overpaying another DL.

May not be the answer. Just hope they find replacements for these bums. I'm over this DL with the exception of Jones and RNR. Like you said, they were the fire on the DL. The others were purely a disaster.

**The Franchise** · 03-14-2017, 01:48 PM

We're going to do something stupid like draft a defensive linemen in the 1st, let him ride the bench for most of the year and then let Howard/Logan walk next offseason. Can't ****ing wait.

staylor26 · 03-14-2017, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

We're going to do something stupid like draft a defensive linemen in the 1st, let him ride the bench for most of the year and then let Howard/Logan walk next offseason. Can't ****ing wait.

No way. That's not where the value will be at 27. It will be QB, RB, ILB, or OLB. I do expect us to go DL on day 2 though.

Sandy Vagina · 03-14-2017, 01:54 PM

Not that anything can excuse the 1 yr 8 mil deal.. if it's accurate... but this was a good article on Logan vs Poe..

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2017/3...as-city-chiefs

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Logan handily beats Poe when it comes to win percentage (by almost seven percent), and absolutely CRUSHES Poe in loss percentage (Poe losing twice as often as Logan on a snap-by-snap basis). That is a massive difference

To put it bluntly, Logan was (based on the stats compiled) significantly better than Poe last season, not only as a run defender, but as a pass rusher as well. He lost at a lower rate in both categories, and the difference in run defense is absolutely striking. Poe had more run defense losses in three separate games than Bennie Logan did in all four games I reviewed COMBINED.

**The Franchise** · 03-14-2017, 01:54 PM

Patriots top 10 cap hits by position:

1. QB - $14M
2. LT
3. S
4. CB
5. WR
6. TE
7. WR
8. TE
9. S
10. K - $3.9M

Chiefs top 10 cap hits by position:

1. OLB - $22M
2. QB
3. WR
4. LT
5. OLB
6. DT - Logan FWIW
7. ILB
8. RT
9. DE
10. DE - $6M

**The Franchise** · 03-14-2017, 01:55 PM

And just in case you want another kick in the nuts...

Alex Smith's cap hit: $16.9M
Tom Brady's cap hit: $14M

RunKC · 03-14-2017, 01:57 PM

I see where DJLN is coming from. How much $$ have we wasted on expendable players? Colquitt? Tamba? Bray?

Why the **** are any of these guys on the roster? They are expendable. A punter isn't hard to find, get John Simon (Ballard ****ing got him) to take that 3rd spot and Bray is just nothing but wasted $$.

These guys are too loyal to some of the players.

Mother****erJones · 03-14-2017, 02:02 PM

Of course I see where he's coming from but I'm not gona freak out over this yet. I'm hoping this works out in the end and next year doesn't matter when we are playing a young QB on a rookie contract.

O.city · 03-14-2017, 02:04 PM

Bray isn't making much, considering he's a qb with a big arm. He's the kind of guy you don't mind paying a little, make him look good in the preseason and see if someone will flip you a pick.

If coke head Ryan Mallett can do it, I'm not sure why bray cant.

O.city · 03-14-2017, 02:04 PM

Frankly, they're cornering themselves into having to pay a qb on a rookie contract.

03-13-2017, 01:18 PM
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03-14-2017, 01:40 PM	#242
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-1640389	I love what this guy brings to the front 7, but 2 down run stuffers usually have a market of roughly $4 million a year for their services. We are in the nickel roughly 65% of the time or more. If we're up against a good passing team, then that's like 80% of the time. It really doesn't make sense to pay Howard, Bailey and Logan big $$ and have one or even 2 of those guys off the field a lot. You have Chris Jones, who is has to be a starter in both normal formation and nickel, then you have all 3 of these paid vets for 1 spot. So we're overpaying for depth? Maybe bc of what happened last year? Why not just cut Bailey or Howard and bring back Reyes back on a small deal? __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
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03-14-2017, 01:48 PM	#247
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2065047	We're going to do something stupid like draft a defensive linemen in the 1st, let him ride the bench for most of the year and then let Howard/Logan walk next offseason. Can't ****ing wait.
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03-14-2017, 01:54 PM	#250
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2065047	Patriots top 10 cap hits by position: 1. QB - $14M 2. LT 3. S 4. CB 5. WR 6. TE 7. WR 8. TE 9. S 10. K - $3.9M Chiefs top 10 cap hits by position: 1. OLB - $22M 2. QB 3. WR 4. LT 5. OLB 6. DT - Logan FWIW 7. ILB 8. RT 9. DE 10. DE - $6M
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03-14-2017, 01:55 PM	#251
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2065047	And just in case you want another kick in the nuts... Alex Smith's cap hit: $16.9M Tom Brady's cap hit: $14M
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03-14-2017, 01:57 PM	#252
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-1640389	I see where DJLN is coming from. How much $$ have we wasted on expendable players? Colquitt? Tamba? Bray? Why the ** are any of these guys on the roster? They are expendable. A punter isn't hard to find, get John Simon (Ballard ing got him) to take that 3rd spot and Bray is just nothing but wasted $$. These guys are too loyal to some of the players. __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley**
Posts: 52,220

03-14-2017, 02:04 PM	#254
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-725936	Bray isn't making much, considering he's a qb with a big arm. He's the kind of guy you don't mind paying a little, make him look good in the preseason and see if someone will flip you a pick. If coke head Ryan Mallett can do it, I'm not sure why bray cant.
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03-14-2017, 02:04 PM	#255
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-725936	Frankly, they're cornering themselves into having to pay a qb on a rookie contract.
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