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Old 04-04-2017, 06:52 AM   #1
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Yeah, so I'd take the QB likeliest to give me as close to a consistent A level of play as possible.

It's like if you have 2 choices:

A) I either give you a million dollars or I give you nothing

B) I give you between 700,000 to 850,000 guaranteed

Any rational person takes B right?

Yes Mahomes could end up great, but he could also end up as the next Brock Osweiler. I don't get why anyone would want such a volatile QB.
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That's a stupid analogy.

The ultimate goal isn't to just get 700-850000 dollars, it's to have a QB worth enough on his own that you have a chance to win the Super Bowl with him.

Alex Smith is that 700000-850000 type QB that gets a team into QB purgatory.

This QB class is a gift from the gods to help us out of that funk.

Mahomes sitting behind Alex for a year (maybe 2) is our best chance at having the QB situation solved for the next decade.
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Old 04-04-2017, 06:57 AM   #2
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That's a stupid analogy.

The ultimate goal isn't to just get 700-850000 dollars, it's to have a QB worth enough on his own that you have a chance to win the Super Bowl with him.

Alex Smith is that 700000-850000 type QB that gets a team into QB purgatory.

This QB class is a gift from the gods to help us out of that funk.

Mahomes sitting behind Alex for a year (maybe 2)is our best chance at having the QB situation solved for the next decade.
Sigh.
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Old 04-04-2017, 02:11 PM   #3
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That's a stupid analogy.

The ultimate goal isn't to just get 700-850000 dollars, it's to have a QB worth enough on his own that you have a chance to win the Super Bowl with him.

Alex Smith is that 700000-850000 type QB that gets a team into QB purgatory.

This QB class is a gift from the gods to help us out of that funk.

Mahomes sitting behind Alex for a year (maybe 2) is our best chance at having the QB situation solved for the next decade.
How is it a stupid analogy? If you needed a million dollar QB to win Superbowls why does Aaron Rodgers only have one almost a decade ago? Why have Manning and Wilson won it in recent years?
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Old 04-04-2017, 02:19 PM   #4
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How is it a stupid analogy? If you needed a million dollar QB to win Superbowls why does Aaron Rodgers only have one almost a decade ago? Why have Manning and Wilson won it in recent years?
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Bc they had great QB's AND and a lgreat team overall. Do you even realize how god awful the Packers were and have been the last few years?

Rodgers carried an 8-8 caliber team to the NFCCG.
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Old 04-04-2017, 02:23 PM   #5
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Bc they had great QB's AND and great team overall. Do you even realize how god awful the Packers were and have been the last few years?

Rodgers took an 8-8 caliber team to the NFCCG.
How are the Packers awful? Their defense is below average but offense is full of weapons. And I thought elite QBs were able to get past deficiencies in the team?

The same people who blame Smith because he needs everything perfect around him are the same people who blame the Packers because they aren't perfect around Rodgers. It's ironic huh?
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Old 04-04-2017, 02:34 PM   #6
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How are the Packers awful? Their defense is below average but offense is full of weapons. And I thought elite QBs were able to get past deficiencies in the team?

The same people who blame Smith because he needs everything perfect around him are the same people who blame the Packers because they aren't perfect around Rodgers. It's ironic huh?
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The Packers had massive injuries in their secondary and couldn't stop anyone. They were 21st in points allowed and 22nd in yards allowed. They also had no RB all year...they literally had to move a WR to play RB.

Who here is saying things need to be perfect? Did you not read the post?

Despite an 8-8 team with huge holes, Rodgers put that team on his back and carried them to an NFCCG.
The Packers in no way deserves to go that far, but their QB took control.

The goal is to get one of those QB's, which Alex will never be....ever, and you trying to blame a QB like Rodgers for not dragging an average team to a SB to defend Alex is completely idiotic.
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Old 04-04-2017, 02:44 PM   #7
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The Packers had massive injuries in their secondary and couldn't stop anyone. They were 21st in points allowed and 22nd in yards allowed. They also had no RB all year...they literally had to move a WR to play RB.

Who here is saying things need to be perfect? Did you not read the post?

Despite an 8-8 team with huge holes, Rodgers put that team on his back and carried them to an NFCCG.
The Packers in no way deserves to go that far, but their QB took control.

The goal is to get one of those QB's, which Alex will never be that's QB, ever.
I don't expect Alex to be better or as good as Rodgers. I'm 100% in for replacing him in 2018 which is why I don't want Mahomes as I see him as a multi year project at best which will force us to keep Alex for 2+ more years. I don't want that.

But back to Rodgers, he's had a above average defense the majority of his time in GB and elite weapons on offense basically his whole career there. And yet 1 Superbowl in 2009. The CP notion of a QB that doesn't need a lot of help doesn't exist.
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Old 04-04-2017, 04:05 PM   #8
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I don't expect Alex to be better or as good as Rodgers. I'm 100% in for replacing him in 2018 which is why I don't want Mahomes as I see him as a multi year project at best which will force us to keep Alex for 2+ more years. I don't want that.

But back to Rodgers, he's had a above average defense the majority of his time in GB and elite weapons on offense basically his whole career there. And yet 1 Superbowl in 2009. The CP notion of a QB that doesn't need a lot of help doesn't exist.
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You can't blame Rodgers for that. He had that team basically in the SB in 2014 and his team pissed the game away. Double digit lead at the end and they piss it away.

That's not on the QB
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How are the Packers awful? Their defense is below average but offense is full of weapons. And I thought elite QBs were able to get past deficiencies in the team?



The same people who blame Smith because he needs everything perfect around him are the same people who blame the Packers because they aren't perfect around Rodgers. It's ironic huh?
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Aaron Rodgers wins his playoff games by competing and challenging teams. Never is he thinking, "Just try to not mess up... maybe they'll make a mistake and hopefully I'll spot it!"

That's EXACTLY how Alex plays football. And it's why he's completely different from guys like Wilson and Eli.

He's way more Trent Dilfer than he is Russel Wilson. You would surely agree, right?
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Aaron Rodgers wins his playoff games by competing and challenging teams. Never is he thinking, "Just try to not mess up... maybe they'll make a mistake and hopefully I'll spot it!"

That's EXACTLY how Alex plays football. And it's why he's completely different from guys like Wilson and Eli.

He's way more Trent Dilfer than he is Russel Wilson. You would surely agree, right?
In the playoffs he and Russell Wilson are comparable. The only difference is that when Wilson has a shitty game, his defense has been able to pick him up. The chiefs defense hadn't.

Imagine if Alex Smith threw 4 interceptions in a playoff game. That's a sure loss right? Well it wasn't for Wilson.
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In the playoffs he and Russell Wilson are comparable. The only difference is that when Wilson has a shitty game, his defense has been able to pick him up. The chiefs defense hadn't.

Imagine if Alex Smith threw 4 interceptions in a playoff game. That's a sure loss right? Well it wasn't for Wilson.
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Alex is allowed to kick around 100 yard games when his defense does what the Seahawks did to Manning. If they're not? Let's say they're playing the adequate Pittsburgh Steelers and don't allow a single friggin TD on the entire day.

Alex has to overcome that. Russell Wilson has been able to find ways in his young career to meet those demands even with a 4 INT game.

Alex has not.

You can't possibly be comparing the two QBs. Do we need you to show you all those Pittsburgh gifs again?
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In the playoffs he and Russell Wilson are comparable. The only difference is that when Wilson has a shitty game, his defense has been able to pick him up. The chiefs defense hadn't.

Imagine if Alex Smith threw 4 interceptions in a playoff game. That's a sure loss right? Well it wasn't for Wilson.
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Facts. First 3 SBs Tom won he did it with an elite defense. Oh wait, he had the number one ranked defense this season too.

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How are the Packers awful? Their defense is below average but offense is full of weapons. And I thought elite QBs were able to get past deficiencies in the team?

The same people who blame Smith because he needs everything perfect around him are the same people who blame the Packers because they aren't perfect around Rodgers. It's ironic huh?
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Do you watch the games on Sunday, or do you just read about them during the week?

I mean damn.
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Do you watch the games on Sunday, or do you just read about them during the week?

I mean damn.
Do you? What did I say that's wrong?
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