DJ still expects to be ready for camp

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Ah. So he's a nice guy and because of that you're going to ignore history.

Got it. It's a personal thing and not based on reality or reason.

I guess we will find out if DJ is Full of Shit as posted on here- when he shows up for training camp- just like he said he would.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

I guess we will find out if DJ is Full of Shit as posted on here- when he shows up for training camp- just like he said he would.

Who the hell cares about 'showing up to camp?'

I said 'ready to play' and 'be effective'.

Jamaal Charles showed up to camp last year. Fat lot of ****ing good that did us.

Christ, listen to you carp and wail like his mother because someone dares question how realistic an athlete is about his health because he gave you some park equipment. Please, try to sound like a bigger **** right now, I'm pretty sure you can't manage it.

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Who the hell cares about 'showing up to camp?'

I said 'ready to play' and 'be effective'.

Jamaal Charles showed up to camp last year. Fat lot of ****ing good that did us.

Christ, listen to you carp and wail like his mother because someone dares question how realistic an athlete is about his health because he gave you some park equipment. Please, try to sound like a bigger **** right now, I'm pretty sure you can't manage it.

Chiefs ILB Derrick Johnson (Achilles') still expects to be ready for training camp.

The 34-year-old ruptured his left Achilles' in December. Johnson optimistically said he will be ready for camp in April, and he is not backing down a month later. "I'm on track, just like last time," Johnson said. "I never want to put a date on when I'm going to be 100 percent. But will I be at camp? I can say that, yeah." Even if he is "ready," Johnson will likely take it easy early in camp, but there does not appear to be any concern about his Week 1 status.

Check the thread title. That is the Whole point of this thread- DJ says he will be at camp.

Immediately, it was posted he was full of shit. That is the WHOLE point of my response.

Now you want to take if a step further and act like he was a scrub before he got hurt and now should just retire. You can post all the odds you want wrapped up in your negativity- but the fact is - DJ HAS come back from this before. Will he be an ALL Pro again- time will tell- but my guess he will Still be the best we have and will be racking up tackles like he always did.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Now you want to take if a step further and act like he was a scrub before he got hurt and now should just retire.

Derrick Johnson was a shadow of his former self in 2016 and that was before he was injured.

Expecting him to return to his former glory after tearing each of his Achilles tendons, and at age 35 to boot, it completely unrealistic.

Father Time is undefeated.

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Derrick Johnson was a shadow of his former self in 2016 and that was before he was injured.

Expecting him to return to his former glory after tearing each of his Achilles tendons, and at age 35 to boot, it completely unrealistic.

Father Time is undefeated.

Before the injury DJ had 90 combined tackles- which projects out to 110.

This would have been the 4th highest of his career. Could he have played better- Yes, we have seen him be even better than that. But he was hardly a SHADOW of himself and his production did not see a Significant drop.

I am not sure who is expecting him to still be ALL PRO- but I do EXPECT him to be at camp- just like he said he would be.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Before the injury DJ had 90 combined tackles- which projects out to 110.

This would have been the 4th highest of his career. Could he have played better- Yes, we have seen him be even better than that. But he was hardly a SHADOW of himself and his production did not see a Significant drop.

He had 90 combined tackles because the defensive line was decimated with injuries and featured two guys signed off the street as starters. He also played along side Justin March, who was pretty much awful, then Ramik Wilson, who improved when he took over DJ's spot but was dragged around in the ground game.

Mike Maslowski once had 92 tackles in a season and he sucked ass.

DJ's 90 tackles were apropos of nothing. He consistently missed easy tackles, was taken out of lanes and took bad angles. While he lost weight going into the season to keep his body fresh, he lost a lot of strength as well.

Expecting him to be 2015 or 2013 DJ is folly.

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

He had 90 combined tackles because the defensive line was decimated with injuries and featured two guys signed off the street as starters. He also played along side Justin March, who was pretty much awful, then Ramik Wilson, who improved when he took over DJ's spot but was dragged around in the ground game.

Mike Maslowski once had 92 tackles in a season and he sucked ass.

DJ's 90 tackles were apropos of nothing. He consistently missed easy tackles, was taken out of lanes and took bad angles. While he lost weight going into the season to keep his body fresh, he lost a lot of strength as well.

Expecting him to be 2015 or 2013 DJ is folly.

So they were all gimmie tackles, gotcha, DJ just fell on the pile. I think you are way exaggerating DJ's play. If he actually played that poorly- Andy would have taken him out. Room for much improvement- Yes -Worst player on the field- No.

And Once again- Who is expecting him to be ALL Pro?

I am not sure where the disconnect is- I said I expect him to be in Camp-just like DJ said he would be - Why- because I take him at his word.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Chiefs ILB Derrick Johnson (Achilles') still expects to be ready for training camp.

The 34-year-old ruptured his left Achilles' in December. Johnson optimistically said he will be ready for camp in April, and he is not backing down a month later. "I'm on track, just like last time," Johnson said. "I never want to put a date on when I'm going to be 100 percent. But will I be at camp? I can say that, yeah." Even if he is "ready," Johnson will likely take it easy early in camp, but there does not appear to be any concern about his Week 1 status.

Check the thread title. That is the Whole point of this thread- DJ says he will be at camp.

Immediately, it was posted he was full of shit. That is the WHOLE point of my response.

Now you want to take if a step further and act like he was a scrub before he got hurt and now should just retire. You can post all the odds you want wrapped up in your negativity- but the fact is - DJ HAS come back from this before. Will he be an ALL Pro again- time will tell- but my guess he will Still be the best we have and will be racking up tackles like he always did.

Or you can read my response and who I was speaking directly to. You're the one that directly addressed me, champ. You might want to speak to what I was actually saying.

I couldn't give a large rats ass about who posted what before me - I spoke to a direct point made in the thread; a couple of them in fact. You, because you're asshurt over some park equipment, are just randomly spewing drivel at anyone who dares question the kind-hearted soul that is Derrick Johnson.

FFS, he's my goddamn screen name. The guy that has his season tickets in front of us lived across the street from him (and down the street from Bowe) and says he's the honest to god nicest person you'd ever meet. I. Don't. Care.

Being nice doesn't stop the goddamn aging process. It doesn't stop injuries from being even harder on guys when they've gotten older. You've made this oddly personal and in so doing you're ignoring a SHITLOAD of history from players that were every bit as committed and dedicated to their crafts and still couldn't bounce back at the ages we're talking about here.

I have no doubt that Derrick Johnson will work hard to come back. I have no doubt that Derrick Johnson THINKS he'll be as good as new and that he may well attend training camp. I also know that time remains unbeaten and untied and generally speaking, athletes don't slowly fade away - they just hit a damn wall. And that's especially true of athletes that suffer major injuries to their lower half.

This is just the harsh reality of it.

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Or you can read my response and who I was speaking directly to. You're the one that directly addressed me, champ. You might want to speak to what I was actually saying.

I couldn't give a large rats ass about who posted what before me - I spoke to a direct point made in the thread; a couple of them in fact. You, because you're asshurt over some park equipment, are just randomly spewing drivel at anyone who dares question the kind-hearted soul that is Derrick Johnson.

FFS, he's my goddamn screen name. The guy that has his season tickets in front of us lived across the street from him (and down the street from Bowe) and says he's the honest to god nicest person you'd ever meet. I. Don't. Care.

Being nice doesn't stop the goddamn aging process. It doesn't stop injuries from being even harder on guys when they've gotten older. You've made this oddly personal and in so doing you're ignoring a SHITLOAD of history from players that were every bit as committed and dedicated to their crafts and still couldn't bounce back at the ages we're talking about here.

I have no doubt that Derrick Johnson will work hard to come back. I have no doubt that Derrick Johnson THINKS he'll be as good as new and that he may well attend training camp. I also know that time remains unbeaten and untied and generally speaking, athletes don't slowly fade away - they just hit a damn wall. And that's especially true of athletes that suffer major injuries to their lower half.

This is just the harsh reality of it.

Wow, you are just flat out making shit up now. You questioned Why I believed DJ when he says he will be AT CAMP and I gave you a VERY specific reason why I take his word at face value. I guess that was not a good enough reason because you said I was being a dick, and now acting butthurt.

Did I ever once say DJ will be the same EXACT player and this injury would not take its toll? NEVER.

Everything you have posted is YOUR opinion and has NOTHING to do with DJ saying he will BE AT CAMP. So keep posting your fluff about aging athletes- because I never disagreed with the fact the age and injuries hurt athletes in the long run. You are only arguing with yourself.

As far as making it Personal- you started with the namecalling.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Wow, you are just flat out making shit up now. You questioned Why I believed DJ when he says he will be AT CAMP and I gave you a VERY specific reason why I take his word at face value. I guess that was not a good enough reason because you said I was being a dick, and now acting butthurt.

Did I ever once say DJ will be the same EXACT player and this injury would not take its toll? NEVER.

Everything you have posted is YOUR opinion and has NOTHING to do with DJ saying he will BE AT CAMP. So keep posting your fluff about aging athletes- because I never disagreed with the fact the age and injuries hurt athletes in the long run. You are only arguing with yourself.

As far as making it Personal- you started with the namecalling.

So when I don't mention him talking about camp at all, you decide to argue with me about him reporting to camp? Again - I quoted posters, spoke directly to them, and you start just posting the same DJ quote as though it's remotely germane to the discussion I'm having. Uh...okay. Rainman says that 90% of DJ is a top 10 ILB. I disagree and explain why. You post a DJ quote that doesn't speak to anything I said and somehow I'm the one arguing with nobody?

And as for making it personal - I'm discussing your defense of DJ. You're not talking about a football player; you're talking about a pal now and you're checking basic reasoning at the door.