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Old 07-12-2017, 10:50 AM   #1
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Lamar Hunt had two GM's from 1960 until his death in 2006.

Since 2006, Clark Hunt has fired three GM's and hired a 4th.

Clark ain't ****in' around.
I may be wrong but I think 4 Klosterman, Steadman, Schaaf and Peterson. Klosterman was hired away from LA Chargers of old AFL to run Hunts Dallas Texans' He along with Loyd Wells are the Architects of the SB winning Chiefs. They alone lured the likes of Taylor, Buchanan, Bell and Garrett away from the NFL. He left after our Super Bowl win to go back west. His parting shot when asked by the news media how he liked his stay in KC, I felt like I was in Purgatory it sure wasn't heaven nor was it hell. I remember my Dad hated trhe prick after that.
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Old 07-12-2017, 11:52 AM   #2
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I may be wrong but I think 4 Klosterman, Steadman, Schaaf and Peterson. Klosterman was hired away from LA Chargers of old AFL to run Hunts Dallas Texans' He along with Loyd Wells are the Architects of the SB winning Chiefs. They alone lured the likes of Taylor, Buchanan, Bell and Garrett away from the NFL. He left after our Super Bowl win to go back west. His parting shot when asked by the news media how he liked his stay in KC, I felt like I was in Purgatory it sure wasn't heaven nor was it hell. I remember my Dad hated trhe prick after that.
Willingness to act should not be mistaken for wisdom.

The Chiefs are now on their 4th GM in 10 years since Lamar Hunt passed. This is not one of the hallmarks of a well-run franchise.

Of the teams that have won the Super Bowl in seasons following Lamar Hunt's passing, here's how many GMs each team has hired in the last 10 years:

New England - 0
Denver - 2
Seattle - 1
Baltimore - 0
New York Giants - 1
Green Bay - 0
New Orleans - 0
Pittsburgh - 0

The Chiefs have had more GMs in the last 10 years than all the Super Bowl winners over that time have hired, combined.

Frequently changing executives is a mark of instability, not of prescient leadership.
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Old 07-12-2017, 12:14 PM   #3
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Willingness to act should not be mistaken for wisdom.

The Chiefs are now on their 4th GM in 10 years since Lamar Hunt passed. This is not one of the hallmarks of a well-run franchise.

Of the teams that have won the Super Bowl in seasons following Lamar Hunt's passing, here's how many GMs each team has hired in the last 10 years:

New England - 0
Denver - 2
Seattle - 1
Baltimore - 0
New York Giants - 1
Green Bay - 0
New Orleans - 0
Pittsburgh - 0

The Chiefs have had more GMs in the last 10 years than all the Super Bowl winners over that time have hired, combined.

Frequently changing executives is a mark of instability, not of prescient leadership.
Prescient means the ability to know what might or will happen in the future, is how you meant to use it?
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Old 07-12-2017, 12:59 PM   #4
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Prescient means the ability to know what might or will happen in the future, is how you meant to use it?
To lead with foresight, to lead with a plan that anticipates the future, rather than being reactionary. In this case, an ability to see who's going to perform well as a GM. The best run teams have this sort of leadership, which is why they do not change GMs very often.

Denver is the only team that's won the super bowl in the last 10 years that's had more than 2 GMs over that time. Clark has now had 4 GMs serve him in that span. (Not to mention 4 head coaches)

Hopefully he's got this one right, because churn at the top is not the sign of a successful organization.
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Old 07-12-2017, 01:06 PM   #5
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Hopefully he's got this one right, because churn at the top is not the sign of a successful organization.
Except for the fact that the organization HAS seen more success with each successive regime change.

Clark Hunt didn't make a mistake in firing Peterson and Edwards. He didn't make a mistake in firing Haley, Pioli and Crennel.

It's yet to be seen if he made a mistake firing Dorsey but based on precedence, it's unlikely to be a mistake, either.
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Old 07-12-2017, 01:26 PM   #6
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Except for the fact that the organization HAS seen more success with each successive regime change.

Clark Hunt didn't make a mistake in firing Peterson and Edwards. He didn't make a mistake in firing Haley, Pioli and Crennel.

It's yet to be seen if he made a mistake firing Dorsey but based on precedence, it's unlikely to be a mistake, either.
I agree completely. I was about to respond. But your response said just what I would have said. Now if Veach drafts like ElFraud and takes the Chiefs back to the gutter while Dorsey goes to another team and build a dynasty, then this was a horrible move. But we just have to let it play out. Hopefully, Veach will pick up where Dorsey left off and will continue to build a deep and dangerous team that will contend for the Superbowl year in and year out.
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