Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-25-2017, 10:37 AM  
MagicHef MagicHef is offline
The Seated Villain
 
MagicHef's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Seattle
Casino cash: $560247
Car Help?

I know there are some knowledgeable car guys on here, and maybe someone can help. My 2001 MR2 Spyder has been running really rough, and I've been running in circles trying to fix it. The previous owner installed an aftermarket turbo with custom headers and exhaust, K&N intake, piggyback ECU, anti-knock system, and higher flow injectors. I've had it for 5 years and it has been working well until recently, so I don't know that the issues are directly related to any of the modifications.

So far I have replaced the fuel pump, fuel filter, fuel pressure regulator, fuel injectors, coils, spark plugs, camshaft sensor, crankshaft sensor, MAF sensor, and O2 sensors.

It was simply running poorly (sounded like it had a dead cylinder) and not throwing codes, but after replacing the camshaft sensor it started giving codes again. Now it gives codes for misfires on all 4 cylinders, plus random misfires, and says the system is too lean.

I am about out of ideas and hoping that I'm overlooking something obvious.
Posts: 10,753
MagicHef wants to die in a aids tree fire.MagicHef wants to die in a aids tree fire.MagicHef wants to die in a aids tree fire.MagicHef wants to die in a aids tree fire.MagicHef wants to die in a aids tree fire.MagicHef wants to die in a aids tree fire.MagicHef wants to die in a aids tree fire.MagicHef wants to die in a aids tree fire.MagicHef wants to die in a aids tree fire.MagicHef wants to die in a aids tree fire.MagicHef wants to die in a aids tree fire.
    Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2017, 11:17 AM   #16
cooper barrett cooper barrett is offline
MVP
 
cooper barrett's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2017
Casino cash: $10000400
Did you do a compression test

A trick i used to use to test the Cat was to remove the O-ring from compression tester and screw it into the cat. I think that normal back pressure was about 10-12psi.
Posts: 13,669
cooper barrett Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.cooper barrett Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.cooper barrett Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.cooper barrett Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.cooper barrett Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.cooper barrett Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.cooper barrett Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.cooper barrett Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.cooper barrett Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.cooper barrett Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.cooper barrett Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
    Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2017, 11:26 AM   #17
MagicHef MagicHef is offline
The Seated Villain
 
MagicHef's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Seattle
Casino cash: $560247
Quote:
Originally Posted by cooper barrett View Post
Did you do a compression test

A trick i used to use to test the Cat was to remove the O-ring from compression tester and screw it into the cat. I think that normal back pressure was about 10-12psi.
I did one a few months ago that came back normal. I was thinking of doing another, but decided against it due to the fact that the issue is affecting all of the cylinders.
__________________
With a sack in 61% of his games, SB MVP Von Miller is the most consistent pass rusher in NFL history.
Posts: 10,753
MagicHef wants to die in a aids tree fire.MagicHef wants to die in a aids tree fire.MagicHef wants to die in a aids tree fire.MagicHef wants to die in a aids tree fire.MagicHef wants to die in a aids tree fire.MagicHef wants to die in a aids tree fire.MagicHef wants to die in a aids tree fire.MagicHef wants to die in a aids tree fire.MagicHef wants to die in a aids tree fire.MagicHef wants to die in a aids tree fire.MagicHef wants to die in a aids tree fire.
    Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2017, 11:37 AM   #18
Buehler445 Buehler445 is offline
Supporter
 
Buehler445's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Scott City KS
Casino cash: $-1385266
I don't know anything about the specific model or the mods but it might be a timing issue.
Posts: 59,933
Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2017, 11:48 AM   #19
MagicHef MagicHef is offline
The Seated Villain
 
MagicHef's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Seattle
Casino cash: $560247
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buehler445 View Post
I don't know anything about the specific model or the mods but it might be a timing issue.
I thought of that too, but it has a timing chain rather than belt. I'm not entirely sure if that eliminates the possibility of an issue or not.
__________________
With a sack in 61% of his games, SB MVP Von Miller is the most consistent pass rusher in NFL history.
Posts: 10,753
MagicHef wants to die in a aids tree fire.MagicHef wants to die in a aids tree fire.MagicHef wants to die in a aids tree fire.MagicHef wants to die in a aids tree fire.MagicHef wants to die in a aids tree fire.MagicHef wants to die in a aids tree fire.MagicHef wants to die in a aids tree fire.MagicHef wants to die in a aids tree fire.MagicHef wants to die in a aids tree fire.MagicHef wants to die in a aids tree fire.MagicHef wants to die in a aids tree fire.
    Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2017, 11:52 AM   #20
Buehler445 Buehler445 is offline
Supporter
 
Buehler445's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Scott City KS
Casino cash: $-1385266
Quote:
Originally Posted by MagicHef View Post
I thought of that too, but it has a timing chain rather than belt. I'm not entirely sure if that eliminates the possibility of an issue or not.
They can go bad too. Not sure I've seen one go bad that hasn't broke and tore the hell out of everything while it gets wound up.

Jason is a better guy to ask than me.

If it's getting every cylinder it could be timing or a controller problem IMO. But I run Deere shit so I may be abnormally predisposed to controller problems.
Posts: 59,933
Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2017, 12:20 PM   #21
Nixhex Nixhex is offline
Chiefn' It
 
Nixhex's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: IndepMo
Casino cash: $7545142
I am getting a P0102 code on my 02 Monte Carlo. The MAF sensor has been replaced and I have used a multimeter to confirm power to the MAF Sensor connection wire. What else could the problem be?
Posts: 1,488
Nixhex would the whole thing.Nixhex would the whole thing.Nixhex would the whole thing.Nixhex would the whole thing.Nixhex would the whole thing.Nixhex would the whole thing.Nixhex would the whole thing.Nixhex would the whole thing.Nixhex would the whole thing.Nixhex would the whole thing.Nixhex would the whole thing.
    Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2017, 12:35 PM   #22
TLO TLO is offline
Life is changing..
 
TLO's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: NW Missouri
Casino cash: $-2380000
Sounds like a vacuum leak somewhere.

EDIT: sounds like others have given that suggestion as well. Shouldn't be too difficult to do yourself.
Posts: 43,041
TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2017, 12:42 PM   #23
notorious notorious is offline
Supporter
 
notorious's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2005
Location: Who knows?
Casino cash: $-764116
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buehler445 View Post

If it's getting every cylinder it could be timing or a controller problem IMO. But I run Deere shit so I may be abnormally predisposed to controller problems.
Brand new equipment is covered by the Deere warranty. I know you don't run anything older than a couple years.
Posts: 88,504
notorious is obviously part of the inner Circle.notorious is obviously part of the inner Circle.notorious is obviously part of the inner Circle.notorious is obviously part of the inner Circle.notorious is obviously part of the inner Circle.notorious is obviously part of the inner Circle.notorious is obviously part of the inner Circle.notorious is obviously part of the inner Circle.notorious is obviously part of the inner Circle.notorious is obviously part of the inner Circle.notorious is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2017, 12:50 PM   #24
Buehler445 Buehler445 is offline
Supporter
 
Buehler445's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Scott City KS
Casino cash: $-1385266
Quote:
Originally Posted by notorious View Post
Brand new equipment is covered by the Deere warranty. I know you don't run anything older than a couple years.


Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight
Posts: 59,933
Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2017, 12:55 PM   #25
cooper barrett cooper barrett is offline
MVP
 
cooper barrett's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2017
Casino cash: $10000400
Quote:
Originally Posted by MagicHef View Post
I did one a few months ago that came back normal. I was thinking of doing another, but decided against it due to the fact that the issue is affecting all of the cylinders.
Did you do a wet dry compression test Leak down if anything looks iffy..

Since you are thinking T Chain:

You can check chain by pulling V\C and doing 2 things. Rotate the engine to where the 2 timing marks align between the 2 can gears and then align the yellow links to the top. Now look at the yellow links, they should be centered with a slot on right and a dot on left sprocket.
You can now check for tension on the chain between the sprockets and you can also see the the # 1 cylinder should be in TDC (valves closed) Now would be a great time to check valve clearances too.

I doubt you will find anything as Yota chains are bulletproof.
Posts: 13,669
cooper barrett Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.cooper barrett Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.cooper barrett Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.cooper barrett Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.cooper barrett Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.cooper barrett Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.cooper barrett Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.cooper barrett Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.cooper barrett Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.cooper barrett Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.cooper barrett Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
    Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2017, 01:06 PM   #26
cooper barrett cooper barrett is offline
MVP
 
cooper barrett's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2017
Casino cash: $10000400
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buehler445 View Post
They can go bad too. Not sure I've seen one go bad that hasn't broke and tore the hell out of everything while it gets wound up.

Jason is a better guy to ask than me.

If it's getting every cylinder it could be timing or a controller problem IMO. But I run Deere shit so I may be abnormally predisposed to controller problems.
I have never seen a yota chain brake (belt sure) but they never get wrapped around anything, either belt or chain, they just fall to the side. Old 22r and Re's would get loose and the chain would cut into the cooling jackets and flood the crank with antifreeze. Catch it too late and it takes the bearings out. I have rarely seen tensioners break (wear out sure) but if you're that far along you are replacing them anyway.

What Yota runs a Deere engine anyway
Posts: 13,669
cooper barrett Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.cooper barrett Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.cooper barrett Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.cooper barrett Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.cooper barrett Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.cooper barrett Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.cooper barrett Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.cooper barrett Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.cooper barrett Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.cooper barrett Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.cooper barrett Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
    Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2017, 01:07 PM   #27
Bugeater Bugeater is offline
The Maintenance Guy
 
Bugeater's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Renovated Bugeater Estate
Casino cash: $3992680
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nixhex View Post
I am getting a P0102 code on my 02 Monte Carlo. The MAF sensor has been replaced and I have used a multimeter to confirm power to the MAF Sensor connection wire. What else could the problem be?
It's a GM product?
Posts: 70,546
Bugeater is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bugeater is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bugeater is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bugeater is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bugeater is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bugeater is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bugeater is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bugeater is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bugeater is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bugeater is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bugeater is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2017, 01:20 PM   #28
Buehler445 Buehler445 is offline
Supporter
 
Buehler445's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Scott City KS
Casino cash: $-1385266
Quote:
Originally Posted by cooper barrett View Post
I have never seen a yota chain brake (belt sure) but they never get wrapped around anything, either belt or chain, they just fall to the side. Old 22r and Re's would get loose and the chain would cut into the cooling jackets and flood the crank with antifreeze. Catch it too late and it takes the bearings out. I have rarely seen tensioners break (wear out sure) but if you're that far along you are replacing them anyway.

What Yota runs a Deere engine anyway
Not car. Sprayer, tractors, combine.
Posts: 59,933
Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2017, 01:29 PM   #29
Hog's Gone Fishin Hog's Gone Fishin is offline
Fish are scared of me
 
Hog's Gone Fishin's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2001
Casino cash: $-1439523
Sounds as though your fuel is watered down , you gotta get some into a cup so you can take a swig to see if you can taste any water.
Posts: 40,646
Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2017, 01:30 PM   #30
kccrow kccrow is offline
MVP
 
kccrow's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Michigan
Casino cash: $-1080000
Quote:
Originally Posted by MagicHef View Post
Yes, that was my first thought, as this car went through a phase where it liked to eat coils.
Assuming you probably did if you checked the coils, but did you also check the ignition module?
Posts: 14,026
kccrow has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.kccrow has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.kccrow has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.kccrow has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.kccrow has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.kccrow has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.kccrow has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.kccrow has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.kccrow has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.kccrow has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.kccrow has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.
    Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:00 PM.


This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.