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Old 08-30-2017, 11:49 AM  
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Browns Trade OL Cam Erving To Chiefs
For a 2018 5th Round pick.
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Old 08-30-2017, 04:42 PM   #301
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Old 08-30-2017, 04:42 PM   #302
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Damn, Veach is picking up right where Dorsey left off

Say what you will about Erving in Cleveland, but this isnt Cleveland... this is a typical Dorsey signing, a high upside guy with elite measurables

Even if he doesnt pan out, it shows that Veach is using much the same methodology as Dorsey

I love it
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Old 08-30-2017, 04:48 PM   #303
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These moves will not make or break Veach.
No they won't
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Old 08-30-2017, 04:48 PM   #304
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Damn, Veach is picking up right where Dorsey left off

Say what you will about Erving in Cleveland, but this isnt Cleveland... this is a typical Dorsey signing, a high upside guy with elite measurables

Even if he doesnt pan out, it shows that Veach is using much the same methodology as Dorsey

I love it
I guess we'll see
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Old 08-30-2017, 04:56 PM   #305
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People worrying too much about Bama prospects is what caused Landon Collins to slip past some teams.

I don't think Bama prospects have been quite as bad as some think. It's mainly the corners that worry me.
Uhhhhh no.

Landon Collins slipped because someone put out a video of him gas masking it
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Old 08-30-2017, 04:58 PM   #306
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Uhhhhh no.

Landon Collins slipped because someone put out a video of him gas masking it
lol That wasn't Landon Collins. That was Tunsil.
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Old 08-30-2017, 05:02 PM   #307
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lol That wasn't Landon Collins. That was Tunsil.
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Old 08-30-2017, 05:03 PM   #308
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Damn, Veach is picking up right where Dorsey left off

Say what you will about Erving in Cleveland, but this isnt Cleveland... this is a typical Dorsey signing, a high upside guy with elite measurables

Even if he doesnt pan out, it shows that Veach is using much the same methodology as Dorsey

I love it
Only thing elite is that he sucked at three different positions- the scrub trifecta.

When a 1-15 team is tired of you- there is nowhere to go but up.

Dorsey would have saved the draft pick.
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Landon Collins slipped because someone put out a video of him gas masking it
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Old 08-30-2017, 05:15 PM   #310
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Only thing elite is that he sucked at three different positions- the scrub trifecta.

When a 1-15 team is tired of you- there is nowhere to go but up.

Dorsey would have saved the draft pick.
Dude its Cleveland, even with their solid record along the O line, it doesnt mean that the culture as a whole is any good

Thats no promise the guy will turn into anything, but Cleveland is what it is... and we all see down and out players change teams and turn their fortunes around

Also, dont discount the fact that they never really let him settle in anywhere... they may well have thrown too much at him too soon, and ****ed him all up

My biggest takeaway here, is that Veach seems to be using the same 'decision lens' as Dorsey... and we've seen that style pay off time and time again, too many times for me to question it

Its a 5th, we'll be fine bro
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Old 08-30-2017, 05:19 PM   #311
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Dane literally made me spit my drink out.

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Old 08-30-2017, 05:22 PM   #312
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I read about half this thread and am dying of laughter...

I loved the Ragland trade. I see updside and thought it was worth it given he spent his rookie year on IR...

This trade though? There are people that think this is a value trade? JFC.

Cam Erving is one of the worst lineman I've ever seen grace an NFL field.

MAYBE, if the Chiefs training staff makes this kid do 5,000 squats and 5,000 power cleans a day, this kid will get some anchor strength by next season. Until that happens, this kid is nothing but a ****ing rag doll. Terrible player. Athleticism only goes so far and it doesn't get him all that far.

He wasn't worth giving a pick up for. Not even a 7th.
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Dude its Cleveland, even with their solid record along the O line, it doesnt mean that the culture as a whole is any good

Thats no promise the guy will turn into anything, but Cleveland is what it is... and we all see down and out players change teams and turn their fortunes around

Also, dont discount the fact that they never really let him settle in anywhere... they may well have thrown too much at him too soon, and ****ed him all up

My biggest takeaway here, is that Veach seems to be using the same 'decision lens' as Dorsey... and we've seen that style pay off time and time again, too many times for me to question it

Its a 5th, we'll be fine bro
I know it may be early to say but it appears it is the system more so than the man. For a while when dorsey was fired I feared it may be a Bill Polian type thing where it seemed like more the person than the system.
We learned painfully what happens when its the system with pioli.
This time we are on the good side of that result. Although unlike pioli I still believe dorsey can build a good team if given another chance. I feel great about Veach. Fun time to be a Chief's fan.
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Old 08-30-2017, 05:33 PM   #314
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I know it may be early to say but it appears it is the system more so than the man. For a while when dorsey was fired I feared it may be a Bill Polian type thing where it seemed like more the person than the system.
We learned painfully what happens when its the system with pioli.
This time we are on the good side of that result. Although unlike pioli I still believe dorsey can build a good team if given another chance. I feel great about Veach. Fun time to be a Chief's fan.
Its still early, but Veach so far is coming off like a younger John Dorsey

He is maybe being even more aggressive, but still using the same basic template... and I'm not gonna argue with that
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