Chiefs Browns Trade OL Cam Erving To Chiefs - Page 26

okiedokieokoye · 08-30-2017, 11:49 AM

For a 2018 5th Round pick.

**jjchieffan** · 08-31-2017, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

More proof that the LG position is a dumpster fire. Ehinger and Witzmann won't even be on this roster next year.

Excellent trade. Erving sucked at LT but I bet he can plug in at guard and be a big upgrade immediately.

This is some more stupid crap. The sig I made for you fits you perfectly. Do you just try to be wrong constantly? Seriously. Ehinger won the starting guard position as a rookie. He needed to bulk up, but still showed enough to win the job immediately and you think he won't be on the team next year?? That is beyond dumb.

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-31-2017, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

And depodesta is a moneyball guy. Its fair to ask if he's trying to prove that he can win on value picks. Maybe he can. But there's clearly an agenda.

"Moneyball" doesn't and can't exist in the NFL.

What Podesta and Sashi Brown are doing is the wave of the now.

Jon Robinson, the Titans GM, is doing the same exact thing: Stockpiling picks to use as ammo for the draft's most talented players each year, then move those picks forward if your "guy" isn't available at the slot.

Quite frankly, I'm surprised it took this long for "tanking" and trading picks to hit the NFL, but then again, it's run by a bunch of old farts.

**Rausch** · 08-31-2017, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan

Ehinger won the starting guard position as a rookie. He needed to bulk up, but still showed enough to win the job immediately and you think he won't be on the team next year?? That is beyond dumb.

Ehinger was a clear upgrade over what we had at the time.

Erving is a guy who's upside is far more than that of Ehinger (should he actually stay healthy and stay at G) and we gave up nothing for him.

At worst we added depth to an area of our squad that had almost none (O line.)

It's a smart deal and our Doogie Howser GM is looking pretty good right now...

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-31-2017, 11:09 AM

Terms: The #Lions trade guard Laken Tomlinson to the #49ers for a 5th rounder in 2019, sources tell @MikeGarafolo and me.
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) August 31, 2017

**The Franchise** · 08-31-2017, 11:12 AM

Is it me....or is there just a huge amount of trades happening this season? Maybe because the cut down has been changed now.

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-31-2017, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Is it me....or is there just a huge amount of trades happening this season? Maybe because the cut down has been changed now.

Tomlinson trade to the 49ers makes 12 deals this month, the most trades in the month of August in the last decade
— Evan Kaplan (@EpKap) August 31, 2017

oldman · 08-31-2017, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Is it me....or is there just a huge amount of trades happening this season? Maybe because the cut down has been changed now.

I think you're right about the trades. I think the single cut down has forced many GMs into hedging their bets on who would be available on waivers.

**SAUTO** · 08-31-2017, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

lol That wasn't Landon Collins. That was Tunsil.

silly me

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-31-2017, 11:33 AM

NFL GM's are simply realizing that late round picks have far less value and far less of a chance to make the 53, than former 1st round players that have higher ceilings but haven't found early success.

A "change of scenery" is often needed for these types of guys.

**Rausch** · 08-31-2017, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

NFL GM's are simply realizing that late round picks have far less value and far less of a chance to make the 53, than former 1st round players that have higher ceilings but haven't found early success.

A "change of scenery" is often needed for these types of guys.

And teams that lose tend to get higher picks that tend to play for teams that lose that tend to change coaching staffs and then players aren't a fit.

O.city · 08-31-2017, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

NFL GM's are simply realizing that late round picks have far less value and far less of a chance to make the 53, than former 1st round players that have higher ceilings but haven't found early success.

A "change of scenery" is often needed for these types of guys.

Only one cut down day as well, guys are flipping picks for guys they want instead of chancing wavers

Quesadilla Joe · 08-31-2017, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

NFL GM's are simply realizing that late round picks have far less value and far less of a chance to make the 53, than former 1st round players that have higher ceilings but haven't found early success.

A "change of scenery" is often needed for these types of guys.

How many first round busts turn it around elsewhere?

I know these guys didn't... Brandon Weeden, Jonathan Cooper, Jason Smith, A.J. Jenkins, Jonathan Baldwin, Aaron Maybin, Josh Freeman, Amobi Okoye, Brady Quinn, Jarvis Moss, Vince Young, Matt Leinart, etc.

keg in kc · 08-31-2017, 12:05 PM

The change in the cut down process is probably responsible for some of these trades. There's a possibility for a crazy amount of waver wire activity on Saturday, with something like a thousand players being released, and I think teams are making trades ahead of the deadline this year that may not have happened in the past.

Chiefshrink · 08-31-2017, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by oldman

I think you're right about the trades. I think the single cut down has forced many GMs into hedging their bets on who would be available on waivers.

BINGO !!!

Chiefshrink · 08-31-2017, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

The change in the cut down process is probably responsible for some of these trades. There's a possibility for a crazy amount of waver wire activity on Saturday, with something like a thousand players being released, and I think teams are making trades ahead of the deadline this year that may not have happened in the past.

As competitive as Veach has been you wonder how many players on other teams he is still salivating for to pick up that will probably be cut.

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