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Old 10-16-2017, 08:47 AM  
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Let's talk about Harris's catch.
We have visual evidence he had control of the ball with two feet down.

If someone leans forward and puts the ball across the goal line, then gets it batted away by the defense before he's down, its still a TD.

Reid says he didn't think it was a catch, so he didn't challenge. Why not challenge anyway. Sometimes you get the call when you didn't think you had a chance.

The only way I can see thats not a catch is that stupid rule of controlling the ball when going to the ground.

I havent heard from anyone who knows the rules inside and out. Was this a case of not controlling the ball when going to the ground?
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Old 10-16-2017, 12:10 PM   #76
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Agreed that the rule isn't easy to understand, explain or apply, but it definitely isn't just two feet down and control of the ball. You have to "complete the act" of the catch which includes "surviving the ground" if you go to the ground.
Once you gain control of the ball, haven't you completed the act of the catch?
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Old 10-16-2017, 12:10 PM   #77
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I think the reason why some people aren’t seeing a catch is because of the many times we’ve seen a defender go to the ground and lose the ball. This is a different story as Harris never went to the ground. He completed the catch and had two feet down, then the defender yanked it out.

That’s a TD.
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Old 10-16-2017, 12:12 PM   #78
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Old 10-16-2017, 12:12 PM   #79
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I think the reason why some people aren’t seeing a catch is because of the many times we’ve seen a defender go to the ground and lose the ball. This is a different story as Harris never went to the ground. He completed the catch and had two feet down, then the defender yanked it out.

That’s a TD.
It can be interpreted that since the defender had his hands where he did, Harris never fully completed or controlled the ball
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It can be interpreted that since the defender had his hands where he did, Harris never fully completed or controlled the ball
Eh maybe, but I disagree.
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Old 10-16-2017, 12:16 PM   #81
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Eh maybe, but I disagree.
Well yeah, chiefs fans all do.

But that's not getting overturned
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Old 10-16-2017, 12:18 PM   #82
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Well yeah, chiefs fans all do.

But that's not getting overturned
Harris had two hand around the ball and control with two feet down. I think that objectively had a good shot at being overturned.
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Harris had two hand around the ball and control with two feet down. I think that objectively had a good shot at being overturned.
I don't think it's that easy to say he had control of it, enough to overturn a call on the field
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Old 10-16-2017, 12:20 PM   #84
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He didn’t go to the ground, though.

He caught the ball, established both feet (actually tapped three feet total), and never went to the ground.
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I think the reason why some people aren’t seeing a catch is because of the many times we’ve seen a defender go to the ground and lose the ball. This is a different story as Harris never went to the ground. He completed the catch and had two feet down, then the defender yanked it out.

That’s a TD.
This is sort of where I've landed (ha). I mean, if he's caught and controlled the ball (which you could feasibly argue that he had), how long is he supposed to stand there with it before the play is dead? It seems like the answer should be "zero". Through my homer goggles, it looks like a TD to me.
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Old 10-16-2017, 12:30 PM   #85
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It can be interpreted that since the defender had his hands where he did, Harris never fully completed or controlled the ball
Bullshit... it was a td before the defender even touched the ball with his elbow lol... his hand was on his arm.
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Old 10-16-2017, 12:34 PM   #86
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In the end zone, clear control, three feet down. I’m not sure what more you could ask for, honestly..

I’m not even mad about it, though. It happened. It’s over..
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Old 10-16-2017, 12:36 PM   #87
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No chance that gets overturned...NONE. Smart not to blow a time out. There is simply NO way they overturn that mess.
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Old 10-16-2017, 12:38 PM   #88
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That play wouldn't get overturned seeing it again that gif. That being said I have no idea why possession of the ball in the EZ isn't immediately a TD.

Once he had both hands on the ball and both feet down, TD. But thats not how they call it now sans the Megatron play which was a TD as well that they called incomplete.
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The team had a chance at the end because they had those timeouts. The blown throw to Robinson on the final drive sealed the deal. Alex makes that throw and the Chiefs win.
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PGM's true colors are shining through... this isn't about Alex you meathead... it's about the play at hand.
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