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Old 11-11-2017, 12:51 PM   #1
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Toub wanted to draft him in the draft. Keep swinging.
It’s still a move that Veach made. He trusted his coaching staff, which appears to be the theme with a lot of our hits in the draft over the last few years.

But again, why are you so harshly judging a GM’s moves when he was hired after the draft and free agency? It’s damn near impossible to do anything of real significance starting at that point. You’re ****ing reeruned.

“Keep swinging” the irony
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Old 11-11-2017, 01:00 PM   #2
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It’s still a move that Veach made. He trusted his coaching staff, which appears to be the theme with a lot of our hits in the draft over the last few years.

But again, why are you so harshly judging a GM’s moves when he was hired after the draft and free agency? It’s damn near impossible to do anything of real significance starting at that point. You’re ****ing reeruned.

“Keep swinging” the irony
I will always be a Dorsey loyalist it was an idiotic move to fire him. You're right though Veach hasn't had a fair shot but I will say Dorsey would have found a serviceable lineman off the scrap heap or a CB.
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Old 11-11-2017, 01:14 PM   #3
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I will always be a Dorsey loyalist it was an idiotic move to fire him. You're right though Veach hasn't had a fair shot but I will say Dorsey would have found a serviceable lineman off the scrap heap or a CB.
What "serviceable" corners were available?
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Old 11-11-2017, 01:20 PM   #4
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I will always be a Dorsey loyalist it was an idiotic move to fire him. You're right though Veach hasn't had a fair shot but I will say Dorsey would have found a serviceable lineman off the scrap heap or a CB.
Dorsey only found competent players off the waiver wire when the Chiefs had the #1 priority for the first 3 weeks of the 2013 season.

Mitchell was a nice waiver claim last year but he'd been with the Chiefs off and on since 2014, so he wasn't exactly a newbie.

Also, there's a major dearth of talented offensive lineman across the entire league so I highly doubt that Dorsey would been able to identify a legit starter at guard or center when Morse & LDT were injured.
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Old 11-11-2017, 01:36 PM   #5
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I will always be a Dorsey loyalist it was an idiotic move to fire him. But I will say Dorsey would have found a serviceable lineman off the scrap heap.
When Jeff Allen was injured in the 2014 opener, Dorsey couldn't find anyone "serviceable", so they signed Mike McGlynn at left guard, who was absolutely atrocious all season long.

Worst guard in the NFL.
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When Jeff Allen was injured in the 2014 opener, Dorsey couldn't find anyone "serviceable", so they signed Mike McGlynn at left guard, who was absolutely atrocious all season long.

Worst guard in the NFL.
2014 in general was a bad year for Dorsey but at least Gaines looked like a legit #2 without Berry. This defense is broken and unlike the middle of '15 I'm not sure it can be fixed.
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I will always be a Dorsey loyalist it was an idiotic move to fire him. You're right though Veach hasn't had a fair shot but I will say Dorsey would have found a serviceable lineman off the scrap heap or a CB.
And probably overpaid him.
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