KU ***** Official 2017-2018 Kansas Basketball Repository Thread ***** - Page 57

saphojunkie · 09:44 AM

**** the elite 8. Final Four or bust, baby.

Will update as people declare for the draft/transfer/commit

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HolyHandgernade · 01-09-2018, 10:35 PM

I have no idea why people are surprised with the defense? We basically have one post player with six players playing the majority of minutes. They play to conserve energy and limit foul trouble. They are trying to figure out how they can best tread water until more help arrives (if it does).

So, are you guys judging this team against that backdrop, or against fully stocked teams of the past? They are playing in the toughest conference night in night out and 3-1. They don't have the luxury of playing hard every possession because they don't have the freedom to play as aggressively as they might because they have to conserve fouls. They can't go as full speed because they have to conserve energy. Its really not a mystery why they play like they do.

Remember Coach Bill "fool's gold" Self? Yeah, me neither. That's because he tells them they don't shoot enough threes? Why? Well, he has good shooters and one big man. Is that what Self wants his team to be? I bet you it isn't, but he's adapted with what he's got. This team has adapted to what it's got. What it has is a better chance to outscore the other side than to take possessions away from them. Maybe that changes if and when we get some more post help, but this team doesn't "have aids"/"isn't good". Its a team finding its best way to win with the understanding the margin is razor thin.

**Buehler445** · 01-09-2018, 10:38 PM

Part of the defensive problems is there is no rim protection. Azabuke as good and big as he is has no defensive instincts. And Lightfoot gets a few blocks because he’s a tiny white guy and dudes underestimate his instincts. But while he gets a few blocks he isn’t doing anything to change shots around the bucket.

ROYC75 · 01-09-2018, 10:48 PM

Welp, that was a muddy win!

KC_Connection · 01-09-2018, 10:58 PM

KU has now moved to 348th in the country in FT rate, ahead of Columbia, North Florida, and USC Upstate.

**BigRedChief** · 01-10-2018, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Trent Green GOAT

This team needs Preston and De sousa badly. So thin in the frontcourt.

at home in Allen field house. Already lost 2 games this year. tie game at 3:30 left in the game against a winless big 12 team, barely above .500 team. Not exactly rock chalk Jayhawk.

Prison Bitch · 01-10-2018, 07:21 AM

Throwaway year

Next 2-3 years is our next window

Bail will shit the bed tho probably then too

**RockChalk** · 01-10-2018, 08:36 AM

My goodness...some real crybabies in here. Last I checked, we are 13-3 (3-1 B12) and ranked #12 in the country, which is probably a better record than we should have with the squad we have to put out each and every night. A win is a win, and given the limitations of the players we have this year, not a single fan should expect us to blow any team out. It's as if some of you would rather have lost to ISU last night, since we didn't beat them by 20 because they are so terrible.

It's a sport. Some of you must have awfully pathetic lives to come on here and bitch about how "bad" this team is. KU and Self have a virtually unprecedented streak that has turned a few of you into spoiled babies.

Mr. Plow · 01-10-2018, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

Azabuke as good and big as he is has no defensive instincts.

He also has zero rebounding instincts. I've never seen a guy as big as him so horrible at rebounding. What he lacks in rebounding instincts, he makes up for in being soft in going for the rebounds he sees. Just never seen a big man like him.

Fansy the Famous Bard · 01-10-2018, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

He also has zero rebounding instincts. I've never seen a guy as big as him so horrible at rebounding. What he lacks in rebounding instincts, he makes up for in being soft in going for the rebounds he sees. Just never seen a big man like him.

I would be ok with him being soft and going for rebounds. Half the time he doesn't even do that. He watches the ball... I've never seen a bigman let the ball hit the floor in front of him off a missed shot as many times as he does. Go get the mother****er, for god's sake.

**BigRedChief** · 01-10-2018, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RockChalk

A win is a win, and given the limitations of the players we have this year, not a single fan should expect us to blow any team out.
It's a sport. Some of you must have awfully pathetic lives to come on here and bitch about how "bad" this team is. KU and Self have a virtually unprecedented streak that has turned a few of you into spoiled babies.

This is not about their record.

Have you watched every game this year? I have. Anyone who has watched this team knows its a soft team thats easily thrown off their game on the court. Its plain as day to anyone who watches the games. Its just a fact thats independent of their record.

It's a players/chemistry issue, not a Self issue.

I've also said that I think Preston on the floor will make a difference, even maybe just maybe, allow us to make a tourney run if he clicks with the other players come march.

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Originally Posted by RockChalk

Some of you must have awfully pathetic lives to come on here and bitch about how "bad" this team is.

Anytime I post anything about my life down here, I get some shit. Lets just say most people would think its not pathetic.

**RockChalk** · 01-10-2018, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

He also has zero rebounding instincts. I've never seen a guy as big as him so horrible at rebounding. What he lacks in rebounding instincts, he makes up for in being soft in going for the rebounds he sees. Just never seen a big man like him.

This is one criticism I can agree on.

I know this isn't a new thought, but with the exception of Embiid (who I'd argue is an all-NBA talent regardless), we have not developed one great big since Manning left to coach Tulsa.

**RockChalk** · 01-10-2018, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

This is not about their record.

Have you watched every game this year? I have. Anyone who has watched this team knows its a soft team thats easily thrown off their game on the court. Its plain as day to anyone who watches the games. Its just a fact thats independent of their record.

I've also said that I think Preston on the floor will make a difference, even maybe just maybe, allow us to make a tourney run if he clicks with the other players come march.Anytime I post anything about my life down here, I get some shit. Lets just say most people would think its not pathetic.

Yes. I watch every game. I attended last night's game and generally go to most home games.

I agree that they play nothing like past teams, but a simple solution would be to just not watch the games if watching a soft team makes you that upset or disgusted.

**BigRedChief** · 01-10-2018, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

He also has zero rebounding instincts. I've never seen a guy as big as him so horrible at rebounding. What he lacks in rebounding instincts, he makes up for in being soft in going for the rebounds he sees. Just never seen a big man like him.

Hasn't he only been playing organized basketball for 6 years?

Prison Bitch · 01-10-2018, 09:02 AM

Ku fans are so spoiled, 1 FF the last decade is a special treat you can't just take for granted, only 40 slots were available. And we were blessed to have grabbed one

Titty Meat · 01-10-2018, 09:27 AM

That game yikes. ISU isn't even good I see a Bradley like game in your tournament future.

01-09-2018, 10:35 PM	#841
HolyHandgernade Integralist Join Date: May 2001 Location: Murrieta, CA Casino cash: $10006370	I have no idea why people are surprised with the defense? We basically have one post player with six players playing the majority of minutes. They play to conserve energy and limit foul trouble. They are trying to figure out how they can best tread water until more help arrives (if it does). So, are you guys judging this team against that backdrop, or against fully stocked teams of the past? They are playing in the toughest conference night in night out and 3-1. They don't have the luxury of playing hard every possession because they don't have the freedom to play as aggressively as they might because they have to conserve fouls. They can't go as full speed because they have to conserve energy. Its really not a mystery why they play like they do. Remember Coach Bill "fool's gold" Self? Yeah, me neither. That's because he tells them they don't shoot enough threes? Why? Well, he has good shooters and one big man. Is that what Self wants his team to be? I bet you it isn't, but he's adapted with what he's got. This team has adapted to what it's got. What it has is a better chance to outscore the other side than to take possessions away from them. Maybe that changes if and when we get some more post help, but this team doesn't "have aids"/"isn't good". Its a team finding its best way to win with the understanding the margin is razor thin. __________________ You'll see it's all a show, keep 'em laughing as you go, just remember, the last laugh is on you, and always look on the bright side of life!
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01-09-2018, 10:38 PM	#842
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01-09-2018, 10:48 PM	#843
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01-09-2018, 10:58 PM	#844
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01-10-2018, 07:21 AM	#846
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01-10-2018, 08:36 AM	#847
RockChalk Dirty Bit Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Lake of the Woods Casino cash: $1256002	My goodness...some real crybabies in here. Last I checked, we are 13-3 (3-1 B12) and ranked #12 in the country, which is probably a better record than we should have with the squad we have to put out each and every night. A win is a win, and given the limitations of the players we have this year, not a single fan should expect us to blow any team out. It's as if some of you would rather have lost to ISU last night, since we didn't beat them by 20 because they are so terrible. It's a sport. Some of you must have awfully pathetic lives to come on here and bitch about how "bad" this team is. KU and Self have a virtually unprecedented streak that has turned a few of you into spoiled babies. __________________
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01-10-2018, 09:02 AM	#854
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01-10-2018, 09:27 AM	#855
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