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Old 04-06-2017, 11:27 AM  
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Old 02-13-2018, 07:46 PM   #1801
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The lack of nuances in your thought process is astounding.

A single game elimination tournament is, by default, a crap-shoot to an extent.

The best teams have what, something like a 15% chance of winning it? In fact, the best team in the country rarely wins it. It takes a shitty shooting night from Devonte Graham for Kansas to lose to Oregon.

This is why every other ****ing sport has a SERIES in the post season. You know, to make those NOT crap-shoots.
When is game 2 of the Super Bowl?
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When is game 2 of the Super Bowl?
That was Game 2. Game 1 was in 2005.
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When is game 2 of the Super Bowl?
How many games does it take for the best teams to get to the Super Bowl?

Football would do series too if it was physically possible.
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The lack of nuances in your thought process is astounding.

A single game elimination tournament is, by default, a crap-shoot to an extent.

The best teams have what, something like a 15% chance of winning it? In fact, the best team in the country rarely wins it. It takes a shitty shooting night from Devonte Graham for Kansas to lose to Oregon.

This is why every other ****ing sport has a SERIES in the post season. You know, to make those NOT crap-shoots.
Myth. The title winner is nearly always a favorite. Pomeroy final ranking for the champ:


2002: 3
2003: 8
2004: 2
2005: 1
2006: 1
2007: 2
2008: 1
2009: 1
2010: 1
2011: 10
2012: 1
2013: 1
2014: 15
2015: 3
2016: 1
2017: 3


Uconn is the outlier in 2011 and 2014. Else, those numbers don't resemble a "crapshoot" at all.
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Old 02-13-2018, 10:50 PM   #1812
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Myth. The title winner is nearly always a favorite. Pomeroy final ranking for the champ:


2002: 3
2003: 8
2004: 2
2005: 1
2006: 1
2007: 2
2008: 1
2009: 1
2010: 1
2011: 10
2012: 1
2013: 1
2014: 15
2015: 3
2016: 1
2017: 3


Uconn is the outlier in 2011 and 2014. Else, those numbers don't resemble a "crapshoot" at all.
So according to Kenpom's numbers which are based on the POST-Tournament rankings (I'm sure this is not statistically important at all), the best team in the country won 50% of the time during during the last 16 years.

Can you please now go fetch the same thing except maybe this time, show us the PRE-Tournament rankings?
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So according to Kenpom's numbers which are based on the POST-Tournament rankings (I'm sure this is not statistically important at all), the best team in the country won 50% of the time during during the last 16 years.

Can you please now go fetch the same thing except maybe this time, show us the PRE-Tournament rankings?
Easy enough to look up.

2002: 4 (Maryland)
2003: 20 (Syracuse)
2004: 5 (UConn)
2005: 2 (UNC)
2006: 6 (Florida)
2007: 3 (Florida)
2008: 1 (Kansas)
2009: 3 (UNC)
2010: 2 (Duke)
2011: 15 (UConn)
2012: 1 (Kentucky)
2013: 1 (Louisville)
2014: 12 (UConn)
2015: 6 (Duke)
2016: 7 (Villanova)
2017: 3 (UNC)

Best team going into the tournament has won three times in the past 16 years in it (18.8% success rate). If it walks like a duck...
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So according to Kenpom's numbers which are based on the POST-Tournament rankings (I'm sure this is not statistically important at all), the best team in the country won 50% of the time during during the last 16 years.

Can you please now go fetch the same thing except maybe this time, show us the PRE-Tournament rankings?
Is that your argument? The most important games that mean the most shouldn't count? What an absurd opinion.

It doesn't help your logic anyway if a team does from 4 to 1 during the Tounrey (teams can't jump up to the top starting from a low number anyway, the Tourney is only 6/40 games played and as such, can't move the needle significantly)

If you're left with arguing that only 1 of the best teams can win and hence, several other equally-good contenders don't....welcome to sports.
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Easy enough to look up.

2002: 4 (Maryland)
2003: 20 (Syracuse)
2004: 5 (UConn)
2005: 2 (UNC)
2006: 6 (Florida)
2007: 3 (Florida)
2008: 1 (Kansas)
2009: 3 (UNC)
2010: 2 (Duke)
2011: 15 (UConn)
2012: 1 (Kentucky)
2013: 1 (Louisville)
2014: 12 (UConn)
2015: 6 (Duke)
2016: 7 (Villanova)
2017: 3 (UNC)

Best team going into the tournament has won three times in the past 16 years in it (18.8% success rate). If it walks like a duck...
So there's basically a 50% chance that one of the top 4 teams will win it all. Wow.

No wonder other sports play series.

In what other sport can the 6th, 7th, 12th, 15th, or even 20th best team in the country win the championship? Yikes.

I mean even in the NFL, the only egregious one I can recall in recent history was the 2011 Giants.
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