Chiefs Marcus Peters traded to Rams - Page 27

Sure-Oz · 12:50 PM

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/sta...97064676052993
@AdamSchefter: Chiefs are expected to trade CB Marcus Peters to the Los Angeles Rams, sources tell ESPN. Teams are in final stages of talks and barring an unexpected snag, the trade is expected to be agreed to as early as today.

@AdamSchefter: Rams and Chiefs are in final stages of talks and barring an unexpected snag, the trade is expected to be agreed to as early as today.

@AdamSchefter: Marcus Peters to LA Rams trade is now officially agreed to, per source; cannot be processed until March 14. But Peters expected to be a Ram.

Eleazar · 02-23-2018, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Marcus Peters is 25 years old, i.e. a young player to build around.

This is reminiscent of the late 1990's/early 2000's Royals... a terribly run organization that would trade away all of its young talent.

Only if you can re-sign him, which we wouldn't have. Then you get nothing for him. What are their options? Trade him now and sell high, trade him next year and get less, or wait and get nothing?

For all we know, he might have asked to be traded.

Mecca · 02-23-2018, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie

Not true. It was an issue now. Any NBA fan knows what it means to trade a player before you lose him on FA and get nothing.

.....

Yea those leagues are totally comparable, quick lets do a sign and trade!

saphojunkie · 02-23-2018, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Great it's still stupid to trade away possibly your best player.

Hunt Mahomes Kelce Hill Houston Berry still on roster.

I know you’re emotional but come on.

Karlos · 02-23-2018, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

John Dorsey and Chris Ballard have big needs at corner and didn’t show interest to Veach for Marcus Peters.

That tells you all you need to know.

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Originally Posted by JohnDONsey

Nice point.

Maybe Peters was even worse behind the scenes.

or maybe its because those teams are huge dumpster fires and they knew that they'd never be able to keep Peters longterm and that trading away valuable assets for a year or two of a top corner when they have holes everywhere is not a wise move.

DJ's left nut · 02-23-2018, 01:16 PM

Why the hell do people keep talking about whether or not he intends to re-sign? Who gives a good goddamn? We have him for 2 years plus a reasonable first year franchise figure. That takes him through his prime years and at that point maybe you are ready to walk away anyway.

The point of the league isn't to keep guys here for as long as you can, it's to maximize their value and contributions to the team when you have windows to win championships. Keeping Hali and Charles during the Pioli years ended up meaning jack shit even if they took deals at/below market. Why? Because we weren't ready to win.

Meanwhile over the next 3 years we'll have Kelce in his prime and 3 young players in Hill, Fuller and Jones who will all be on rookie deals for 2 of them with the ability to frontload them on extensions for the third. We'll also have an immensely talented young QB on a rookie contract to boot.

The window to win a championship was WIDE THE **** OPEN for the next 3 seasons and Marcus Peters was effectively under team control for those years. If you lose him in 2021 who gives a shit? 3 years is an eternity in this league.

The only justification of any sort for this deal is that the organization is changing its underlying philosophy and is going all-in on offense so they know that they won't even want to bother tying up space for 2020 on a franchise for Marcus when they could use it on Hill. But even that is just pissing all over the window they have the next 2 years.

This trade demonstrates a complete lack of any sort of killer instinct by this front office. They preferred keep things level; move a piece here and there and make sure they get something by 2021. I mean sure, the goddamn meteor and/or Trump is going to have killed us all by then, but that's important stuff guys. That or they're writing off 2018 as a transitional year anyway and think the risk/reward for pushing all-in on 2019 and 2020 is too great.

In other words - the kind of organizational cowardice that has led to decades of us being just good enough to lose when it matters.

This hurts the team badly for the most wide open window they've had since Len Dawson. No matter how you try to rationalize that, it's a terrible decision. They needed to focus their energies on winning a title in the 3 years they'll have Mahomes for peanuts. This clearly does not do that.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-23-2018, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie

Not true. It was an issue now. Any NBA fan knows what it means to trade a player before you lose him on FA and get nothing.

This is something I’ve been mentioning for weeks.

With the NFL salary cap quickly approaching $200 million dollars, while teams are only required to spend 99% of the cap every four years, we’re going to see more and more player-for-player trades, NBA style salary dumps and players for picks.

FloridaMan88 · 02-23-2018, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie

Not true. It was an issue now. Any NBA fan knows what it means to trade a player before you lose him on FA and get nothing.

The NFL has the franchise tag, which the NBA doesn't have, to protect from losing free agents in the manner you describe above.

arrwheader · 02-23-2018, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Karlos

The Rams are a young team who realize they are on the verge of contention and have decided to go for the jugular. We've decided that on the same doorstep of contention to be a bunch of pussies and trade away our best defensive player for draft picks knowing full well none of those players we draft will ever replace the one we traded.

In team America terms. - Marcus Peters was a dick but dicks are necessary. Why? Because dicks **** pussies. The Chiefs are not the dicks. They are the pussies and when MP plays the Chiefs next year he is going to **** the Chiefs.

saphojunkie · 02-23-2018, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

.....

Yea those leagues are totally comparable, quick lets do a sign and trade!

Comparable yes. The same thing no.

Don’t be obtuse

Eleazar · 02-23-2018, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by teedubya

Between the Royals not signing any of their stars... and the Chiefs being a shitshow, I'm glad I just focus on the cryptocurrency and blockchain space now, instead of sports.

We're glad too.

cooper barrett · 02-23-2018, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Mahomes is supposed to fix EVERYTHING.

We were promised!!

I wonder how those bets are doing right now......

Hammock Parties · 02-23-2018, 01:16 PM

I hate this trade.

Deion Sanders was a key cog in two championship teams, and the second team won a Super Bowl because they stole him from the first.

TwistedChief · 02-23-2018, 01:16 PM

Can someone please start the 'who will the Chiefs draft in the first round' thread to lighten this place up a bit?

saphojunkie · 02-23-2018, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

The NFL has the franchise tag, which the NBA doesn't have, to protect from losing free agents in the manner you describe above.

Sure worked out for Washington. The franchise tag is nothing more than an expensive stop gap to try and work out a deal, which are almost always above market value.

**Bwana** · 02-23-2018, 01:17 PM

This thread didn't disappoint. I'm going to wait and see what the deal looks like, rather than have a meltdown before any details of the trade see the light of day.

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DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $-640901	Why the hell do people keep talking about whether or not he intends to re-sign? Who gives a good goddamn? We have him for 2 years plus a reasonable first year franchise figure. That takes him through his prime years and at that point maybe you are ready to walk away anyway. The point of the league isn't to keep guys here for as long as you can, it's to maximize their value and contributions to the team when you have windows to win championships. Keeping Hali and Charles during the Pioli years ended up meaning jack shit even if they took deals at/below market. Why? Because we weren't ready to win. Meanwhile over the next 3 years we'll have Kelce in his prime and 3 young players in Hill, Fuller and Jones who will all be on rookie deals for 2 of them with the ability to frontload them on extensions for the third. We'll also have an immensely talented young QB on a rookie contract to boot. The window to win a championship was WIDE THE **** OPEN for the next 3 seasons and Marcus Peters was effectively under team control for those years. If you lose him in 2021 who gives a shit? 3 years is an eternity in this league. The only justification of any sort for this deal is that the organization is changing its underlying philosophy and is going all-in on offense so they know that they won't even want to bother tying up space for 2020 on a franchise for Marcus when they could use it on Hill. But even that is just pissing all over the window they have the next 2 years. This trade demonstrates a complete lack of any sort of killer instinct by this front office. They preferred keep things level; move a piece here and there and make sure they get something by 2021. I mean sure, the goddamn meteor and/or Trump is going to have killed us all by then, but that's important stuff guys. That or they're writing off 2018 as a transitional year anyway and think the risk/reward for pushing all-in on 2019 and 2020 is too great. In other words - the kind of organizational cowardice that has led to decades of us being just good enough to lose when it matters. This hurts the team badly for the most wide open window they've had since Len Dawson. No matter how you try to rationalize that, it's a terrible decision. They needed to focus their energies on winning a title in the 3 years they'll have Mahomes for peanuts. This clearly does not do that. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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