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View Poll Results: What do you want the Chiefs to do at CB now?
Sign Trumaine Johnson 20 24.10%
Sign Malcolm Butler 11 13.25%
Sign Rashaan Melvin 5 6.02%
Sign Kyle Fuller 40 48.19%
Sign E.J. Gaines 6 7.23%
Sign another free agent 5 6.02%
Draft a CB high (Round 1 or 2) 21 25.30%
Draft a CB in the mid rounds (Rounds 3-5) 19 22.89%
Roll with Fuller, Nelson, and Amerson as starters. Add depth piece. 5 6.02%
**** Donk Forever 12 14.46%
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Old 02-25-2018, 02:08 PM  
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What do you want the Chiefs to do at CB now?
Keep in mind the potential price tag of each free agents, obviously. Maybe give some insight to how you'd like to construct the contract.

If you don't want to sign one, note other positions you may want to pursue via FA.

Can select multiple, but keep it realistic.
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Old 02-25-2018, 02:25 PM   #16
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I don't think it is. That seems like a solid CB group to me, if Amerson can get back to where he was a couple seasons ago.

The Chiefs real problems are pass rush and not having a single elite run defender who isn't a walking injury. Front seven is the biggest issue to me.

We need to find some anchors.
I agree.

This is a very good corner class. Use a pick from the Peters trade (and the Foles comp pick if needed) to move up and draft a corner in the early 2nd rd.

There are going to be 1st rd caliber corners that will fall to rd 2 due to the surplus at the position.
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Old 02-25-2018, 02:28 PM   #17
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I voted Johnson. Only reason for hesitance is his potentially monstrous contract. If it is any more than $12M per, I'm probably out. But I think we'd have an overall better CB group in 2018 with Johnson/Fuller/Nelson/Amerson than we had in 2017, 2016, and maybe even 2015.

Veach needs to commit money to the secondary and/or front seven this March, and address the other via the draft. So if we sign a CB, we need to draft DL and LB high IMO, and vise versa.
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Old 02-25-2018, 02:33 PM   #18
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I don't think it is. That seems like a solid CB group to me, if Amerson can get back to where he was a couple seasons ago.

The Chiefs real problems are pass rush and not having a single elite run defender who isn't a walking injury. Front seven is the biggest issue to me.

We need to find some anchors.
So your plan is to go into 2018 with Fuller as the #1, when he hasn't proven yet that he can do it, Amerson as the #2, when he's been a walking, talking dumpster fire at CB these past couple of seasons, and Nelson, who gets critical holding penalties at the absolute worst times. Did you already forget we had to pull Revis out of the football retirement home because our CB corps were so sorry? Did you forget that we just traded the only decent CB we had because he's an asshole?
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Old 02-25-2018, 02:37 PM   #19
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I went to school with Trumaine Johnson.

My sources say he wants to play in KC. Needs 10+M though.
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Old 02-25-2018, 02:38 PM   #20
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I voted Johnson. Only reason for hesitance is his potentially monstrous contract. If it is any more than $12M per, I'm probably out. But I think we'd have an overall better CB group in 2018 with Johnson/Fuller/Nelson/Amerson than we had in 2017, 2016, and maybe even 2015.

Veach needs to commit money to the secondary and/or front seven this March, and address the other via the draft. So if we sign a CB, we need to draft DL and LB high IMO, and vise versa.
Veach did this when he brought in Amerson, and I was the first person to vouch for him. He was 2nd behind Peters in 2015 in passes defended. He also had 16 passes defended in 2016 before he tore a ligament in his foot and played poorly as a result in 2017.

At this point, Steven Nelson is expendable bc Fuller plays his position on 3rd down. Trade him for a pick and use it in the draft to move up for a CB early rd 2.

There are corners and safeties in this class that can play big roles day 1. Spend on the front 7 in FA
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Old 02-25-2018, 02:39 PM   #21
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I went to school with Trumaine Johnson.

My sources say he wants to play in KC. Needs 10+M though.


You bullshitting or is this legit?
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I get what you're saying, but the Eagles just won the Super Bowl with Jalen Mills and Patrick Robinson as their starting corners for much of the season.

Granted they traded for Ronald Darby but he's no Peters.

I think that's a good enough corner group if your pass rush and run defense is adequate. This team's isn't.
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Old 02-25-2018, 02:40 PM   #23
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Yeah, there is a O% chance Veach views Amerson as a cant miss, plug n play starter... a proven starter needs to be opposite of Fuller
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Veach did this when he brought in Amerson, and I was the first person to vouch for him. He was 2nd behind Peters in 2015 in passes defended. He also had 16 passes defended in 2016 before he tore a ligament in his foot and played poorly as a result in 2017.

At this point, Steven Nelson is expendable bc Fuller plays his position on 3rd down. Trade him for a pick and use it in the draft to move up for a CB early rd 2.

There are corners and safeties in this class that can play big roles day 1. Spend on the front 7 in FA
I'm really curious as to what the plan is for Fuller. I sincerely hope that they roll with him outside in base packages, and move him inside for nickel and dime. Exactly the way that Chris Harris is used in Denver.

I think if we ask him to play outside full time, we aren't handling it properly.
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Sign Johnson. Best guy available. Who cares about the $16 mill. You want a good CB? You have to spend and the Chiefs can afford to. Good CBs are a premium and when they FA you have no choice but to spend. That’s how the market is today.
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If I have to trust the chiefs in thier judgement to rid of one of the best corners in the league, I'll trust them to do whatever the **** they want.
Don't think it matters with Bob Sutton running the shitshow.

Speaking of, let's just send Justin Houston over to the CB slot. He is good in coverage.
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I voted both Johnson or Fuller (either would be fine) - since Xavier Rhodes isn't available.
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Old 02-25-2018, 02:57 PM   #29
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Trade for that young CB on his rookie deal on the Rams.

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I'll take 26 year old Kyle Fuller, coming off of a somewhat disappointing season, on a 3 year, $21 million dollar deal.

Johnson's 28 and will want to break the bank.

I'm not really interested in the other guys.
Fuller had a very good 2017 season which is why the Bears are in a dilemma cause they didn't pick up his 5th year option after his injury plagued/disappointing 2014-2016 seasons.
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