La Canfora-Peters trade was mandated by Clark Hunt

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Nzoner

And yet BB with all his SB rings doesn't have one with one of the greatest receivers ever on his squad.

This is still not the ****ing point, a guy who has won over and over in that market has earned some leeway, this franchise and coach have not at all. Matter of fact the history here says they should always be held to the fire.

[Nzoner]

Originally Posted by Mecca

This is still not the ****ing point, a guy who has won over and over in that market has earned some leeway, this franchise and coach have not at all. Matter of fact the history here says they should always be held to the fire.

I'm not disagreeing with that at all,I'm disagreeing with this win at any cost mentality and Randy Moss is a fine example that just because a player is great doesn't mean shit if he is all about being a me first cancer to the organization as a whole.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Nzoner

I'm not disagreeing with that at all,I'm disagreeing with this win at any cost mentality and Randy Moss is a fine example that just because a player is great doesn't mean shit if he is all about being a me first cancer to the organization as a whole.

Considering I'm nearing 40 and I've yet to see this team play for anything important, I think win at all costs pretty much sums up where I'm at.

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Considering I'm nearing 40 and I've yet to see this team play for anything important, I think win at all costs pretty much sums up where I'm at.

Well, luckily we are currently in boom or bust territory. If Mahomes balls out and develops like he has the potential to, we should be making serious strides to winning a Superbowl. If Mahomes just totally busts and falls off the rails, I'm pretty sure Reid'll be run out of town by at least the fans, and Clark will cave to that like he did with Pioli.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Superturtle

Well, luckily we are currently in boom or bust territory. If Mahomes balls out and develops like he has the potential to, we should be making serious strides to winning a Superbowl. If Mahomes just totally busts and falls off the rails, I'm pretty sure Reid'll be run out of town by at least the fans, and Clark will cave to that like he did with Pioli.

Yep, it all rides on Mahome's success. If he works out than nobody will give a shit about Peters, or anyone else for that matter.

[Nzoner]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Considering I'm nearing 40 and I've yet to see this team play for anything important, I think win at all costs pretty much sums up where I'm at.

55 here brother and was so young the first win I don't remember a thing about it.Yes,it's disheartening as hell but as I've stated many times I let all that go after the Indy play-off debacle a few years ago and now just watch for pure entertainment.Those frustrating sleepless nights after big game losses are behind me and I love it.

I'm not judging you,I know all too well where you're coming from and respect your passion.

[Jimkcchief88]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Considering I'm nearing 40 and I've yet to see this team play for anything important, I think win at all costs pretty much sums up where I'm at.

I’m almost 50 and I break out my Chiefs Joe Montana for every big game. I barely remember the last big Chief playoffs games in my early 20’s. Win at all costs is where we are at, but that’s not where the Chiefs organization is. This trade proves it. Jeff Chadia said yesterday on 810 that if the Chiefs are in the business of trading a Marcus Peters then they aren’t in the business of winning Chanpionships. We all know that since they haven’t won a Super Bowl in almost 50 years. Nick Wright was visibly upset this morning over this trade this morning on his show “First things First.” I didn’t realize he is from KC and if you check his Twitter it looks like he’s married to a sister. He went so far as to question his Chiefs fandom as some us here are doing. I take a lot of crap here in Chicago for being a non-Bears fan. A hell of a lot. Now I’m questioning whether it’s worth the $$$ i spend paying overpriced direct tv for out of market games and the crap I have to hear whenever I go out of my house in Chiefs gear. All to fund and organization and owner who wants their black players to stand when told to and shut up and play without an opinion. Last time I checked football players are also college educated young people so those type of folks generally have some type of opinion. My parents certainly did when they march in the civil rights movement down in the Jim-Crow south when they were in college in the 60’s. But it’s all right if your white like Travis Kelce. Matter fact you get an extension and a raise. Maybe MP thought he could get away just like Kelce in our colorblind, post racial society. Well he found out he was wrong and got traded for a bag of chips. It’s a clear double standard and if you can’t see that your blind baby, blind to the fact. I’m sure I’ll be banned by the mods again for this post so Chief out

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Nzoner

I'm not disagreeing with that at all,I'm disagreeing with this win at any cost mentality and Randy Moss is a fine example that just because a player is great doesn't mean shit if he is all about being a me first cancer to the organization as a whole.

What about the recent Jay Ajayi example in Philadelphia?

Miami gave up on Ajayi and traded him for similar reasons that the Chiefs are giving up on Marcus Peters... he was supposedly a locker room cancer, etc.

Ajayi goes on to be a key part of the Eagles Super Bowl run while the Dolphins were sitting at home watching.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

What about the recent Jay Ajayi example in Philadelphia?

Miami gave up on Ajayi and traded him for similar reasons that the Chiefs are giving up on Marcus Peters... he was supposedly a locker room cancer, etc.

Ajayi goes on to be a key part of the Eagles Super Bowl run while the Dolphins were sitting at home watching.

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But Ajayi was a curious case because he had a period before the season-opener last season during which the Dolphins were really frustrated with him. It’s the reason he was left home when the team flew to Seattle for the 2016 season opener.

Ajayi seemingly addressed his attitude after that. And he reaped the benefits. He earned the starting job and became the team’s most effective offensive weapon. That continued through the offseason.

But in the last four weeks or so, the Dolphins saw pre-Seattle Jay Ajayi again.

He complained bitterly about not getting the football. He stormed out of the locker room -- get this, after wins -- because he hadn’t gotten what he deemed to be enough carries. And, oh yes, he didn’t exactly light it up on the field.

And here’s the thing: All this was done undercover. Ajayi complained to his position coach. And he carried around an attitude around other teammates. But he never took his concerns to the only voice that matters and that’s Gase.

[Bewbies]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

What about the recent Jay Ajayi example in Philadelphia?

Miami gave up on Ajayi and traded him for similar reasons that the Chiefs are giving up on Marcus Peters... he was supposedly a locker room cancer, etc.

Ajayi goes on to be a key part of the Eagles Super Bowl run while the Dolphins were sitting at home watching.

This reads like Ajayi would have led Miami to the Super Bowl instead they got rid of him and Philly went because of him instead.

Maybe the change of scenery was good for the guy? Maybe he was annoying as hell in Philly too? Maybe winning was better for him than losing was? Maybe he hated living near a topless beach and preferred ice cold winters.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Bewbies

This reads like Ajayi would have led Miami to the Super Bowl instead they got rid of him and Philly went because of him instead.

Maybe the change of scenery was good for the guy? Maybe he was annoying as hell in Philly too? Maybe winning was better for him than losing was? Maybe he hated living near a topless beach and preferred ice cold winters.

Or maybe a better coaching staff/team culture made it work with a high maintenance player.

The Dolphins are a loser culture much like Clark's franchise.

[Messier]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Or maybe a better coaching staff/team culture made it work with a high maintenance player.

The Dolphins are a loser culture much like Clark's franchise.

How are the Chiefs a loser culture?

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Messier

How are the Chiefs a loser culture?

1 playoff win in 20+ years.

Zero Super Bowl appearances in 40+ years.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Messier

How are the Chiefs a loser culture?

Does that really need to even be asked?

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Messier

How are the Chiefs a loser culture?

I think loser culture is a little harsh. But let's be real about what our culture is. It's safe. We love game managers at qb. We love polite, lunch pail players who work hard and if we're totally honest, work hard on the field but are pretty emotionless. Our players read interviews like they're off scripts. They don't question their coaches even though, watching Reid's decision making maybe they should. We don't like to fire coaches. And our owner doesn't like to rock the boat.

This whole experience questions confirms that this is just who we are. And strong hints that we want to go back to the pioli boy scout route. Thank God for mahomes.