Why are so many national writers so high on the Chargers?

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by sedated

Rivers is 9th all time in passing yards, one in front of Warren Moon (HOF) and a few spots behind Dan Marino (HOF), neither played in a SB.

On the flip side, he's not too far ahead of Carson Palmer (12), Vinny Testaverde (13), Drew Bledsoe (14), and Kerry Collins (17).

9th all time is not HoF type numbers. HoF numbers are generally record breaking type numbers at their time.

At no point has Rivers ever been in that category. Warren Moon was crushing NFL records in his time.

"In 1990, Moon led the league with 4,689 passing yards. He also led the league in attempts (584), completions (362), and touchdowns (33), and tied Dan Marino's record with nine 300-yard games in a season. That included throwing for 527 yards against Kansas City on December 16, 1990, the second-most passing yards ever in a single game.[15] The following year, he again led the league in passing yards, with 4,690. At the same time, he joined Marino and Dan Fouts as the only quarterbacks to post back-to-back 4,000-yard seasons. Moon also established new NFL records that season with 655 attempts and 404 completions."

[sedated]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

9th all time is not HoF type numbers. HoF numbers are generally record breaking type numbers at their time.

All the QBs in the top 10 in passing yards are, or will be, in the HOF. (Unless Rivers is the only outlier)

All the QBs in the top 10 in passing TDs are, or will be, in the HOF. Rivers is 6th. (Unless Rivers is the only outlier)

I'm not saying Rivers is a lock, but to say it's not even borderline seems a bit biased.

[lawrenceRaider]

Originally Posted by sedated

All the QBs in the top 10 in passing yards are, or will be, in the HOF. (Unless Rivers is the only outlier)

All the QBs in the top 10 in passing TDs are, or will be, in the HOF. Rivers is 6th. (Unless Rivers is the only outlier)

I'm not saying Rivers is a lock, but to say it's not even borderline seems a bit biased.

Rivers a HOFer? If it happens, then HOF will truly mean nothing.

[wazu]

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

Rivers a HOFer? If it happens, then HOF will truly mean nothing.

Already the case. Bettis is in.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by sedated

All the QBs in the top 10 in passing yards are, or will be, in the HOF. (Unless Rivers is the only outlier)

All the QBs in the top 10 in passing TDs are, or will be, in the HOF. Rivers is 6th. (Unless Rivers is the only outlier)

I'm not saying Rivers is a lock, but to say it's not even borderline seems a bit biased.

As a San Diegan, i've watched him his whole career. He's a perennial choker. For years i lectured CPers not to sleep on Rivers.

But it's time to call a spade a spade. The dude has not been good in awhile. The Rivers that people have in there heads is long gone. I haven't seen that QB in a long time. No bias here.

It's just been a long time since he performed like a winning QB.

The Rivers/HOF debate is something that was a popular topic in SD. Years ago, i agreed that he had a HOF type career path. But these last several years have not amounted to anything. He's regressed IMO.

Again, what is Rivers' HOF moment?

What big game did he win?

What was his memorable, heroic moment?

He's a QB with a losing record, and in his era wasn't BREAKING records. The other stat guys you mentioned were game changers in their era. Rivers is not.

[Best22]

"If only the Chargers had a kicker!"

Yeah right. That guy missed one field goal, the other was blocked

Fact that people don't want to admit is that if LACk had beaten KC just once, Chargers would have been in the playoffs while KC would have been at home twiddling their thumbs

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

As a San Diegan, i've watched him his whole career. He's a perennial choker. For years i lectured CPers not to sleep on Rivers.

But it's time to call a spade a spade. The dude has not been good in awhile. The Rivers that people have in there heads is long gone. I haven't seen that QB in a long time. No bias here.

It's just been a long time since he performed like a winning QB.

The Rivers/HOF debate is something that was a popular topic in SD. Years ago, i agreed that he had a HOF type career path. But these last several years have not amounted to anything. He's regressed IMO.

Again, what is Rivers' HOF moment?

What big game did he win?

What was his memorable, heroic moment?

He's a QB with a losing record, and in his era wasn't BREAKING records. The other stat guys you mentioned were game changers in their era. Rivers is not.

He did knock Peyton Manning and the Dolts out of the playoffs in back-to-back years. That has to count for something.

[Best22]

Originally Posted by kccrow

He did knock Peyton Manning and the Dolts out of the playoffs in back-to-back years. That has to count for something.

10 years ago

Got denied a SB berth by an undefeated Pats team

That time has come and gone. I respect Rivers though, not just for his ability and career but also he seems like a chill guy off the field. Gives 0 f****

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Best22

10 years ago

Got denied a SB berth by an undefeated Pats team

That time has come and gone. I respect Rivers though, not just for his ability and career but also he seems like a chill guy off the field. Gives 0 f****

I was just trying to find something relative but not quite good enough haha.

He's not a HOF QB in my estimation, but he is a damned good QB.

[Chiefshrink]

If they stay healthy this year and their o-line improves they will win the division easily with the Chiefs,Donks and Faiders fighting for 2nd place IMHO.

Chiefs literally have a rookie QB still cutting his teeth and our defense is in rebuild mode. Donks have a solid defense with questions at QB,o-line and RB, the Faiders still have serious questions on D and will Carr be able to endure Gruden's grinding.

The Chiefs,Donks and Faiders will all be in contention for 2nd place IMHO.

Division record will look something like this IMHO.

1. Chargers 12-4
2. Chiefs 9-7
3. Faiders 8-8
4. Donks 7-9