2018 STL Cardinals Thread

[BigRedChief]

Opening day lineup

Fowler RF
Pham CF
Carpenter 3B
Ozuna LF
Martinez 1B
Molina C
Dejong SS
Wong 2B
Pitcher

Edit:
Matheny fired 07/14/2018




Opening Day Roster

Spoiler!

St. Louis has opted to carry 12 position players and 13 pitchers to begin the new season, with a four-man bench and eight-man bullpen.

Outfielders:
Dexter Fowler
Tommy Pham
Marcell Ozuna

Infielders:
Matt Carpenter
Paul DeJong
Kolten Wong

Catchers:
Yadier Molina
Francisco Pena

Utility:
Jose Martinez
Greg Garcia
Yairo Munoz
Jedd Gyrko

Starters:
Carlos Martinez
Michael Wacha
Luke Weaver
Miles Mikolas
Jack Flaherty

Relievers:
Dominic Leone
Tyler Lyons
Bud Norris
Brett Cecil
Sam Tuivailala
Matt Bowman
Jordan Hicks
Mike Mayers

On the DL:
Adam Wainwright
Luke Gregerson

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

It is unlikely that Hicks is gonna be a high K guy, given that he wasn't at any level. Given his control issues, I doubt that he ever amounts to much in the pen.

Carpenter is 2-3 again tonight. Getting him right has really jump started this offseason.

O'Neill is ****ing on fire. They might have to give the Leake treatment to Fowler at this point.

I cant argue with any of this.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Told y'all motha****as Carpenter would get straightened out.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

It is unlikely that Hicks is gonna be a high K guy, given that he wasn't at any level. Given his control issues, I doubt that he ever amounts to much in the pen.

Carpenter is 2-3 again tonight. Getting him right has really jump started this offseason.

O'Neill is ****ing on fire. They might have to give the Leake treatment to Fowler at this point.

Originally Posted by Marcellus

I cant argue with any of this.

Concur.

So Hamas, who’s the young pitcher that has trade value that we should give up to get a MOTOB? And what’s a deal going to have look like to get a team to give them up?

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Told y'all motha****as Carpenter would get straightened out.

and here to gladly eat my crow.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Concur.

So Hamas, who’s the young pitcher that has trade value that we should give up to get a MOTOB? And what’s a deal going to have looke like?

The Cardinals don't need one. If Carpenter and Ozuna play to their talent level, and DeJong and Molina come back healthy and productive, this offense is loaded with guys that can hit the ball.

Hell, the bench itself would be ****ing loaded. The pen is the problem.

[Jewish Rabbi]

Has there been a bigger surprise in baseball this year than Mikolas?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi

Has there been a bigger surprise in baseball this year than Mikolas?

Individually, no, and I was way off on him.

I am starting to wonder if there is ****ery about in Houston. How did Charlie Morton and Cole turn into Max Scherzer clones, and how did Verlander become more dominant than ever after being shit for several years?

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi

Has there been a bigger surprise in baseball this year than Mikolas?

no one including Cardinals management had any higher hopes beyond getting close to being an innings eater similar to Lynn’s innings. He’s going to make the All-Star team if he keeps this up.

He and O’neil are making Mo look smart. And that takes a lot to pull off.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

The Cardinals don't need one. If Carpenter and Ozuna play to their talent level, and DeJong and Molina come back healthy and productive, this offense is loaded with guys that can hit the ball.

Hell, the bench itself would be ****ing loaded. The pen is the problem.

Unless they can pull in Manny and keep him at 3rd long term I’d go the route you’re suggesting

[Rams Fan]

Machado is the only offensive upgrade I could feasible see make feasible sense for the Cardinals.

Once/if Ozuna/Carpenter/Fowler start not performing as poorly as they have been for the majority of the season, this team will be really, really, really good.

I still don't think this season is one to compete for a WS, but next season is.

[O.city]

I’d trade some of the arms for machado and hope you can sign him. Some of these dudes aren’t gonna work out so move them for an every day all star while you can

[Rams Fan]

Originally Posted by O.city

I’d trade some of the arms for machado and hope you can sign him. Some of these dudes aren’t gonna work out so move them for an every day all star while you can

I'm not even opposed to Machado as a rental as long as Mozeliak thinks this is the year to go all in, which, me personally, I'm not convinced it is.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by O.city

I’d trade some of the arms for machado and hope you can sign him. Some of these dudes aren’t gonna work out so move them for an every day all star while you can

l don’t see any scenerio where Manny signs long term in St. Louis. I’d love it just don’t see how.
What scenerio do you see that he will sign here long term?

[O.city]

Probabpy about 400 million scenarios where he might sign in sto

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

The Cardinals don't need one. If Carpenter and Ozuna play to their talent level, and DeJong and Molina come back healthy and productive, this offense is loaded with guys that can hit the ball..

thats a heullva lot of ifs.

Where are these pitchers going to pitch? How about the outfield? I read an article on Viva la Birdos, l think, that was saying we have a ticking 40 man roster issue that explodes in 2 years. We won’t be able to protect them all and just will lose them without any compensation through rule 5.