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Old 01-02-2018, 05:51 PM  
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2018 STL Cardinals Thread
Opening day lineup

Fowler RF
Pham CF
Carpenter 3B
Ozuna LF
Martinez 1B
Molina C
Dejong SS
Wong 2B
Pitcher

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Matheny fired 07/14/2018




Opening Day Roster
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Old 08-07-2018, 11:40 AM   #2686
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All you have to know about how much Harper is about to get paid is when people start talking about .875 OPS being a dog shit year for the guy.
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Old 08-07-2018, 12:28 PM   #2687
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All you have to know about how much Harper is about to get paid is when people start talking about .875 OPS being a dog shit year for the guy.
i’m with Prison Bitch, I think before this season he was set to get $400 million. I think he gets $300 million now. $300 million is still big pile of money.
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Old 08-07-2018, 12:35 PM   #2688
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Old 08-07-2018, 12:39 PM   #2689
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i’m with Prison Bitch, I think before this season he was set to get $400 million. I think he gets $300 million now. $300 million is still big pile of money.
Any team that offers him less than what Stanton got is going to be left holding their dicks.
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Old 08-07-2018, 12:46 PM   #2690
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All you have to know about how much Harper is about to get paid is when people start talking about .875 OPS being a dog shit year for the guy.
Yeah. He's 31st/158 regulars in wRC+, behind the power bats of Nick Markakis (!), David Peralta and Brandon Nimmo (who?)
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Old 08-07-2018, 12:47 PM   #2691
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Yeah. He's 31st/158 regulars in wRC+, behind the power bats of Nick Marsalis (!) and Brandon Nino (who?)
How do their careers match up to Harper at 25? Just curious.
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How do their careers match up to Harper at 25? Just curious.
Not sure. How did Greg Holland's career match up with the others you could've signed instead for far less $?
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Old 08-07-2018, 12:51 PM   #2693
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Not sure. How did Greg Holland's career match up with the others you could've signed instead for far less $?
Ya because their situations are even remotely similar.
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i’m with Prison Bitch, I think before this season he was set to get $400 million. I think he gets $300 million now. $300 million is still big pile of money.
His metrics are all going the wrong way. He still mashes FB but struggles now vs curves/sliders. His contact rate plunged from 85% to 77% of swings. His exit velo and HR distance are both down.


Defensively he's the worst RF by a mile. Worst arm, worst range, everything. Dexter Fowler saves twice the runs Harper does. Think about that!


He may yet become the monster the media and fans falsely believe he is, but if this was his audition for $400M, wow did he show stage fright.
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Old 08-07-2018, 01:33 PM   #2695
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His metrics are all going the wrong way. He still mashes FB but struggles now vs curves/sliders. His contact rate plunged from 85% to 77% of swings. His exit velo and HR distance are both down.


Defensively he's the worst RF by a mile. Worst arm, worst range, everything. Dexter Fowler saves twice the runs Harper does. Think about that!


He may yet become the monster the media and fans falsely believe he is, but if this was his audition for $400M, wow did he show stage fright.
How do you figure he has the worst arm? He was clocked at 98mph on a throw to home to nail Kosma at the plate last year from decent depth in RF last year.

His metrics though are surprising, considering he has had years where his range was an asset. He is fast enough...it makes you wonder about how much he cares about his defense.
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If Harper keeps up the current pace this year he will have had sub 2 WAR seasons in 3 of the last 5 years with 2 being in past 3. Still only 25 so will get paid based on some potential from his complete badass season but expect he had cost himself some money. Only takes one team to get paid though.
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If Harper keeps up the current pace this year he will have had sub 2 WAR seasons in 3 of the last 5 years with 2 being in past 3. Still only 25 so will get paid based on some potential from his complete badass season but expect he had cost himself some money. Only takes one team to get paid though.
He isn't keeping a current pace though. He's got a 1.000 OPS over the last month, 1.100 for the 2nd half so far.
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So should the Cardinals offer Harper 10years/$300? Or will he get multiple offers at that AAV and length and level and we need to better that offer?

Or should we just stay away from him and spending that kind of long term money?
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Out lead off hitter has 30 HR and out cleanup guy is basically Ichiro.
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Out lead off hitter has 30 HR and out cleanup guy is basically Ichiro.
lets be honest though, the only reason he is hitting lead off is because every time they try to move him out of that spot, he immediately falls off a cliff and hits .200 with no power.
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