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Old 08-15-2018, 09:15 PM   #1
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Arthritis is in my hands and knees.

Never tried aloe. But I take glucosamine and chondroitin with MSM. Does topical application make any difference?
Supposed too. There's two doctors who have books on aloe, one British who writes about his work on patients with arthritis Dr. Peter Atherton. Atherton has been able to reduce his patients medication and he recommends taking it with some MSM.

The plant is just a natural anti-inflammatory but there's 400 species over 2,200 types. The Aloe Barbadensis Miller is the most potent has the most about of helpful properties. I use the plant for burns 'cuz I burn myself a lot cooking including boiling oil accidentally spilling. Really takes the sting out fast, heals up the burn faster too. I have no scars from any of them. A nurse told me it's used in burn units.

Also heat. It helps blood flow.

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I haven’t had it formally diagnosed but I don’t have the blood markers for rheumatoid. I’m assuming just standard osteo arthritis.
I find that really incredible at your age.
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Old 08-15-2018, 09:37 PM   #2
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I find that really incredible at your age.
Heh. I've had it for more than a decade. When I was 25, I was playing basketball 3 times a week and developed tendonitis in my patellar tendon. I had to go to a general practitioner before I could be referred to a sports medicine doctor or orthopedist.

So I go see this gal, and she has to do the stability test for the ACL/MCL, so she puts her hand on my kneecap and gets this bewildered look and says, "Oh my GOD. You have arthritis! You're too young for that!"

I told her I figured, but this isn't that. But since we're talking about it, what are my treatment options for it. ".....weeeellll....you can take up to 2400 MG ibueprofien per day." Gee. Thanks.

I got out of her that Glucosamine and Condoiton is the only supplement approved by the USDA to slow the loss of cartilage.

Quite the depressing visit. But yeah, I'm 35 now.
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Old 08-15-2018, 09:52 PM   #3
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Heh. I've had it for more than a decade. When I was 25, I was playing basketball 3 times a week and developed tendonitis in my patellar tendon. I had to go to a general practitioner before I could be referred to a sports medicine doctor or orthopedist.

So I go see this gal, and she has to do the stability test for the ACL/MCL, so she puts her hand on my kneecap and gets this bewildered look and says, "Oh my GOD. You have arthritis! You're too young for that!"

I told her I figured, but this isn't that. But since we're talking about it, what are my treatment options for it. ".....weeeellll....you can take up to 2400 MG ibueprofien per day." Gee. Thanks.

I got out of her that Glucosamine and Condoiton is the only supplement approved by the USDA to slow the loss of cartilage.

Quite the depressing visit. But yeah, I'm 35 now.
You might look into stem cell treatments especially for the knee. It's been around 15 years now and they've had good results. These regenerate joint cartilage and repair arthritis damage. Some it hasn't worked on but you're young enough. Insurance considers it experimental still so they won't cover it but I've heard good things about it from orthopedic doctors. Others orthopedic drs are skeptical.

NIH's website says umbilical blood cord is most effective but there's other kinds. Some use your own stem cells.
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You might look into stem cell treatments especially for the knee. It's been around 15 years now and they've had good results. These regenerate joint cartilage and repair arthritis damage. Some it hasn't worked on but you're young enough. Insurance considers it experimental still so they won't cover it but I've heard good things about it from orthopedic doctors. Others orthopedic drs are skeptical.

NIH's website says umbilical blood cord is most effective but there's other kinds. Some use your own stem cells.
I have an appointment with my MD to talk about them. I think the umbilical cord cells aren't legal in the US. I also heard they may be trying to ban all stem cells because the HHS (I think) Chief doesn't like stem cells for.....reasons.
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I have an appointment with my MD to talk about them. I think the umbilical cord cells aren't legal in the US. I also heard they may be trying to ban all stem cells because the HHS (I think) Chief doesn't like stem cells for.....reasons.
Rogan had Mel Gibson on talking about his dad doing SCT. It was interesting. I think you'll have to go to Panama for it though. Would be a long drive on the old John Deere.
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Rogan had Mel Gibson on talking about his dad doing SCT. It was interesting. I think you'll have to go to Panama for it though. Would be a long drive on the old John Deere.
Yeah. I listened to that one. That sounds amazing. But I imagine it takes Mel Gibson money to make that happen.
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Yeah. I listened to that one. That sounds amazing. But I imagine it takes Mel Gibson money to make that happen.
Yeah, it's still weird to me the reasons we don't have it like that here
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I have an appointment with my MD to talk about them. I think the umbilical cord cells aren't legal in the US. I also heard they may be trying to ban all stem cells because the HHS (I think) Chief doesn't like stem cells for.....reasons.
Advanced Regenerative Orthopedics in Tampa uses blood cord.

That's horrible someone is attempting to ban them. Sounds like those profiting off of knee and hip replacement surgery are feeling the heat of competition.

I went to some seminars on this because of two knee injuries in the same knee, plus surgery on the same knee at age 12 myself. The place using one's own stem cells naturally was opposed to the blood cord. I just happened to check out what NIH said about them. In 2007 I was told because of that surgery, I may get arthritis in that knee. Ultimately I didn't have to do anything as my last MRI did not show another meniscus tear.
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