Chiefs **** BOB SUTTON - Page 10

Chris Meck · 09-16-2018, 02:31 PM

That's it.
You got major upgrades in the front seven. The corners were not the problem today. Guys running free underneath all ****ing day. NO PASS RUSH, rushing two and three guys and Steeler receivers STILL RUNNING FREE UNDERNEATH. Everytime we blitzed, we rushed the throw. Everytime we didn't, Roethlisberger had all ****ing day. No excuse to rush two and three against a HOF QB.

You got younger, and faster. It's not all on the players. It's the scheme. It leaves the defense on the field until they're gassed and give up the big play.

If the scheme is too complicated for your secondary to run, then CHANGE THE SCHEME.

You have an offense that can score at will. Play aggressive and make them match you big play for big play. blitz, pressure, force them to make a big play or a mistake. Sitting back in loose zones all day is NOT WORKING.

**** Sutton.

**Tribal Warfare** · 09-16-2018, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

And then Howard got hurt.

BTW I don't blame him playing cover 2 under, because of the QB rules but the use of said talent

Pitt Gorilla · 09-16-2018, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Exactly...you're leaving gaping hols and tons of time for the QB with a 3 man rush...so why not just blitz and take a chance?

We did and they picked it up.

beach tribe · 09-16-2018, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

They did and gave up huge plays.

They gave up huge plays no matter what but were more effective when brining pressure.

If you couldnt see that you cant be helped.

htismaqe · 09-16-2018, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

They gave up huge plays no matter what but were more effective when brining pressure.

If you couldnt see that you cant be helped.

When the players executed, they were effective. They made plays when they rushed 3 and they made plays when they rushed 5 and 6. They also gave up big yards when they rushed 3 and when they rushed 5 and 6.

That's what happens when you lack talent. They're inconsistent, regardless of scheme.

rabblerouser · 09-16-2018, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

They gave up huge plays no matter what but were more effective when brining pressure.

If you couldnt see that you cant be helped.

But you can't blitz every down.

For a variety of reasons.

NJChiefsFan · 09-16-2018, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser

I don't know what game YOU were watching.

He ran zone blitzes, cover 2s, cover 1s, cover 3s...man unders, 2unders...he ran ILB blitzes, stunts designed to free up those blitzers, and on a Dime blitz GOT THE BLITZER OPEN FREE TO THE QB, AND THE BLITZER MISSED.

Sutton threw everything AND the kitchen sink at the wall today.

What percent of the time did he rush only 3 or 4 guys? Kitchen sink is not what I saw today. Yes he called a great blitz with Murray and Murray did the classic panic and make the QB have an easy escape. I'm sure I could watch the game again and notice a few blitzes I didn't pick up but this defense still played in an overall shell today.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad · 09-16-2018, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser

And also, this.

It's Mahomes, bitch.

please stop trying to make this a thing

htismaqe · 09-16-2018, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

What percent of the time did he rush only 3 or 4 guys? Kitchen sink is not what I saw today. Yes he called a great blitz with Murray and Murray did the classic panic and make the QB have an easy escape. I'm sure I could watch the game again and notice a few blitzes I didn't pick up but this defense still played in an overall shell today.

You don't bring the kitchen sink against a QB like Roethlisberger.

NJChiefsFan · 09-16-2018, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

You don't bring the kitchen sink against a QB like Roethlisberger.

I never said you should. I was just referencing his use of the phrase saying we did. Ben also showed that rushing 3 doesn't work.

rabblerouser · 09-16-2018, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

What percent of the time did he rush only 3 or 4 guys? Kitchen sink is not what I saw today. Yes he called a great blitz with Murray and Murray did the classic panic and make the QB have an easy escape. I'm sure I could watch the game again and notice a few blitzes I didn't pick up but this defense still played in an overall shell today.

Did you watch it the first time?

Honest question.

rabblerouser · 09-16-2018, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudy tossed tigger's salad

please stop trying to make this a thing

You go back to your corner and don't tell me what to do.
IT'S MAHOMES, BITCH.

rabblerouser · 09-16-2018, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

during the year when Poe got injured, he had a very good year people were wanting him resigned and dumping Poe due to him being damaged goods.

What year was THAT?

NJChiefsFan · 09-16-2018, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser

Did you watch it the first time?

Honest question.

Sure I did but in my nervous state and focus on other players on certain plays I'm always open to having missed something. I'm pretty comfortable in saying that the overall theme stayed the same in rushing 3 or 4 and getting terrible results out of it. Could you answer my question about what percent of times we rushed 4 or less in the second half?

rabblerouser · 09-16-2018, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

They gave up huge plays no matter what but were more effective when brining pressure.

If you couldnt see that you cant be helped.

JFC.

YOU CAN'T BLITZ EVERY DOWN

PRESSURE IS ONLY EFFECTIVE IF THE QB DOESN'T KNOW WHERE IT'S COMING FROM, OR IF IT'S COMING AT ALL.

It's like chess, or jabs in a boxing match.

FFS, it's not complicated.

"BRING 10 ON EVERY DOWN!! GO ZERO SO IF SOMEONE MISSES A TACKLE, WE GET THE BALL RIGHT BACK!!!"

Rubes.

jspchief · 09-16-2018, 06:12 PM

His scheme has been trash since he arrived. He just doesn't have the talent to mask it anymore.

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09-16-2018, 02:31 PM
Chris Meck MVP Join Date: May 2001 Location: midtown KC Casino cash: $1584910	** BOB SUTTON That's it. You got major upgrades in the front seven. The corners were not the problem today. Guys running free underneath all ing day. NO PASS RUSH, rushing two and three guys and Steeler receivers STILL RUNNING FREE UNDERNEATH. Everytime we blitzed, we rushed the throw. Everytime we didn't, Roethlisberger had all ing day. No excuse to rush two and three against a HOF QB. You got younger, and faster. It's not all on the players. It's the scheme. It leaves the defense on the field until they're gassed and give up the big play. If the scheme is too complicated for your secondary to run, then CHANGE THE SCHEME. You have an offense that can score at will. Play aggressive and make them match you big play for big play. blitz, pressure, force them to make a big play or a mistake. Sitting back in loose zones all day is NOT WORKING. ** Sutton.
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