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Old 09-23-2018, 08:30 AM  
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Earl Thomas a longshot to be a Chief
They just said on ESPN we were on the list of teams that he could be dealt to.
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Old 09-24-2018, 06:29 AM   #571
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Of course it is a PR thing too, there will be some people that get annoyed about giving up a 1, or "Brett Veach sucks at the draft" when he won't have a 1, 2 drafts in a row..
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Old 09-24-2018, 06:39 AM   #572
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Of course it is a PR thing too, there will be some people that get annoyed about giving up a 1, or "Brett Veach sucks at the draft" when he won't have a 1, 2 drafts in a row..
I can't be happy giving up a #1 for a partial season rental, especially when we have Bob Sutton as the common denominator. =(
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Old 09-24-2018, 06:41 AM   #573
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I can't be happy giving up a #1 for a partial season rental, especially when we have Bob Sutton as the common denominator. =(
If you make that deal you assume there is a new contract because his cap number is pretty high.

Thomas wants to get paid so I doubt you are dealing for him unless you are ready to pay him.
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Old 09-24-2018, 06:47 AM   #574
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Berry has a 16 mil cap hit next year. I don't see how any team ties up 25 mil plus in one year on safeties.

It would likely be a one year rental for a 2nd round +. That's going all in this year.
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Old 09-24-2018, 06:51 AM   #575
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If you make that deal you assume there is a new contract because his cap number is pretty high.

Thomas wants to get paid so I doubt you are dealing for him unless you are ready to pay him.
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Berry has a 16 mil cap hit next year. I don't see how any team ties up 25 mil plus in one year on safeties.

It would likely be a one year rental for a 2nd round +. That's going all in this year.
This. 25+ mil in Safeties and 1 of them can't see the field. Berry is going to be rusty IF he ever comes back, and Earl may need some weeks to adjust to Bob's D.
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Old 09-24-2018, 06:57 AM   #576
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You get away with it because you have Ford, Bailey and Houston likely coming off the book after this year.

Who's to say this team doesn't walk on Berry in 2 years?
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Old 09-24-2018, 06:58 AM   #577
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I can't be happy giving up a #1 for a partial season rental, especially when we have Bob Sutton as the common denominator. =(
Bob Sutton's defenses were excellent when the talent was there. This defense sorely needs talent and using Bob Sutton as an excuse to not acquire it is inexcusable...
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Old 09-24-2018, 06:59 AM   #578
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That's going all in this year.
When Mahomes is this far ahead of schedule, going all in makes perfect sense.
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Why wouldn't you go all in? The AFC is in shambles, the Steelers are a dramafied mess, the Patriots look old and untalented, Jacksonville has no offense.

The spot is there for the taking right now.
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Why wouldn't you go all in? The AFC is in shambles, the Steelers are a dramafied mess, the Patriots look old and untalented, Jacksonville has no offense.

The spot is there for the taking right now.
Exactly.
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When Mahomes is this far ahead of schedule, going all in makes perfect sense.
We have to stick to the PLAN, younger and faster on defense.
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Old 09-24-2018, 07:06 AM   #582
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We have to stick to the PLAN, younger and faster on defense.
Because the "plan" has won us so many Super Bowls.

Again, Patrick Mahomes changes EVERYTHING. He's having a one-in-a-lifetime season right now. You have to take advantage of it.
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Old 09-24-2018, 07:13 AM   #583
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Because the "plan" has won us so many Super Bowls.

Again, Patrick Mahomes changes EVERYTHING. He's having a one-in-a-lifetime season right now. You have to take advantage of it.
He's just getting started. Manning, brees and Brady didn't have their best football year 1.
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Old 09-24-2018, 07:16 AM   #584
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How long are you going to have that offense rolling that way?

At some point we are going to have a less talented offense to have an average defense and a QB making a ton of money.

The time is right now.
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He's just getting started. Manning, brees and Brady didn't have their best football year 1.
His start is better than any of those guys. When you have a winning lottery ticket in your hand, you cash it in. You don't stick it in your pocket and say "I think I'll just keep playing to see if I can get a bigger jackpot".

This year's team can win a Super Bowl. They need more talent on defense. Wasting this opportunity would be a real shame.
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