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Old 09-23-2018, 08:30 AM  
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Earl Thomas a longshot to be a Chief
They just said on ESPN we were on the list of teams that he could be dealt to.
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Old 09-24-2018, 02:09 PM   #901
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Yeah, from drafting.

Once they started throwing picks at players later, it went to shit.
The core of our team - the offense - was built through the draft. Free agency/trades should be used to finish off that last little bit, which is exactly what Earl Thomas would be.
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Old 09-24-2018, 02:09 PM   #902
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We've won ONE playoff game - ONE - since I was in college. My oldest child is getting ready to go to freaking college.

The "dynasty" talk needs to stop. It's absolutely silly.

Yes, Patrick Mahomes could be the cornerstone of a dynasty.

But this year is special, even by Tom Brady/Peyton Manning standards. If you're not going to go all in this year to win it all, might as well not even try. That's chickencaca thinking.
It's just the randomness of it. I'm all about giving myself as many chances to win as I can.
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Old 09-24-2018, 02:10 PM   #903
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We haven't been past the divisional round of the playoffs in damn near 30 years and you guys are ready to go all in on a SB this year.
Yea cause the conference is wide open right now, do you realize having 1 playmaker on this defense may be the difference in winning in the playoffs?

If that middle isn't wide open that's a huge thing.
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Old 09-24-2018, 02:10 PM   #904
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We haven't been past the divisional round of the playoffs in damn near 30 years and you guys are ready to go all in on a SB this year.
And you want to avoid going all in because it might prevent them from being a "dynasty".

Seriously man, think about what you are saying.
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We've won ONE playoff game - ONE - since I was in college. My oldest child is getting ready to go to freaking college.

The "dynasty" talk needs to stop. It's absolutely silly.

Yes, Patrick Mahomes could be the cornerstone of a dynasty.

But this year is special, even by Tom Brady/Peyton Manning standards. If you're not going to go all in this year to win it all, might as well not even try. That's chickencaca thinking.
Well I will say Veach was hired for his scouting prowess. At least we’d have 2 2nd rd picks next year.

Hopefully in this scenario Justin Houston takes a paycut.
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It's just the randomness of it. I'm all about giving myself as many chances to win as I can.
Like I said last night:

When you're up $50 on the nickel slots, you freaking cash out and go somewhere else.

The guys that sit at the slot machine and put in more nickels don't end up with more money, they end up BROKE.
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Well I will say Veach was hired for his scouting prowess. At least we’d have 2 2nd rd picks next year.

Hopefully in this scenario Justin Houston takes a paycut.
We need some more fat ass OLB's that run like they are stuck in the sand.
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And you want to avoid going all in because it might prevent them from being a "dynasty".

Seriously man, think about what you are saying.
When has going all in ever worked though in this sense?

I don't have a problem trading for someone. But I'm not giving up a high pick and a big new contract to do it.
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Old 09-24-2018, 02:12 PM   #909
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And you want to avoid going all in because it might prevent them from being a "dynasty".

Seriously man, think about what you are saying.
I’d mortgage the future for a substantial increase in SB probability.
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When has going all in ever worked though in this sense?

I don't have a problem trading for someone. But I'm not giving up a high pick and a big new contract to do it.
When has stockpiling picks and playing for next year ever worked for the Chiefs?
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We need some more fat ass OLB's that run like they are stuck in the sand.
Did you see our pass rush last year?

Giving up a 1st for Earl Thomas will look silly when we let Ford walk, have no real resource to replace him and watch QB’s have all day to destroy our all-pro safeties.
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I’d mortgage the future for a substantial increase in SB probability.
Yep, me too.
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How much of the future are you even mortgaging? You are trading a pick for a DB..you're likely drafting at least one if not 2 DB's...Thomas is proven and this team has 18 million of dead money coming off after this year a long with several big money contracts.

Why does it matter if they trade for Thomas or sign a FA other than Thomas can help right ****ing now when we are a contender.
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How long is this window going to be open? If you don't strike when you can do something you will sit there with your dick in your hand.
I have no problem capitalizing on our opportunity, but there's a limit. I absolutely would not give up our first round pick for a 29 year old expensive safety that would require a new contract. I also don't understand this defeatist attitude about our ability to draft defensive talent. I agree we haven't been great, but that doesn't mean you give up. If anyone really thinks that Veach is incapable of improving at finding defensive talent then he absolutely has to go. Either you trust the guy to find talent in the draft and continue to build the team or you don't. Over paying on trades isn't the answer.
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If Seattle is asking for that many picks, he isn't getting traded. No one is trading higher than a 3, maybe a 2 (doubt it).

He's 29 and he needs a new contract.
They most likely get a conditional 3rd for him even if they just let him walk next year. Plus, they could tag and trade him as well.

It will take a 2nd+ to get him.
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