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Old 09-23-2018, 08:30 AM  
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Earl Thomas a longshot to be a Chief
They just said on ESPN we were on the list of teams that he could be dealt to.
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Old 09-25-2018, 09:01 AM   #1411
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Chadiha was just on 810 talking about it.

Said he doubted it got done with KC because ET wouldn't sign long term in KC if the $ isn't crazy.
That's not "I just want to be paid accordingly." That's "I'd rather be somewhere else but I'll stick around if you REALLY make it worth my while."
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Old 09-25-2018, 09:02 AM   #1412
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So the million dollar question is would the Chiefs consider trading one of their 2 second round picks from next year to have him, just for this season, knowing he would walk after the season (probably to the Cowboys) for a big FA contract?

He would get a legitimate shot at a ring. The Chiefs second level defense would be helped out significantly and theoretically, he could stabilize the position till Berry gets back and fully healthy (be that this season or next).

So, do you make the trade knowing you'll just have him for this season and it'll only cost you a second round pick??
Are you not paying attention to how he's acting right now? This shouldn't even be a question.
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Old 09-25-2018, 09:03 AM   #1413
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Are you not paying attention to how he's acting right now? This shouldn't even be a question.
I'm just asking the question, based on Chadiha's info to see if the pulse of CP would generally be in favor of it or against it . . . .
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Old 09-25-2018, 09:03 AM   #1414
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So the million dollar question is would the Chiefs consider trading one of their 2 second round picks from next year to have him, just for this season, knowing he would walk after the season (probably to the Cowboys) for a big FA contract?

He would get a legitimate shot at a ring. The Chiefs second level defense would be helped out significantly and theoretically, he could stabilize the position till Berry gets back and fully healthy (be that this season or next).

So, do you make the trade knowing you'll just have him for this season and it'll only cost you a second round pick??
Good point. This could very well be the sticking point.
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Again, what makes you believe he would be willing to just come here and quietly play out the remainder of his contract? He wants paid right ****ing now and he's willing to act like a total douche to get his way.
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Old 09-25-2018, 09:12 AM   #1416
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I'll answer the question first since I proposed it:

I would.

It's either the Chiefs pick or the Rams pick in the second round next year, both which will presumably be towards the back end of the second round. It's hard to find elite players there. You can, but it's not easy.

Earl Thomas for one season is still an elite player and I think if he came to the Chiefs he knows he would have a shot at a ring in a down AFC, which could theoretically enhance his value even more, making him even more $$$$$ in the off season in FA. He wants to go to the Cowboys, yes, but he ALSO wants to get paid! The Chiefs could give him an additional platform to do that.

And, I'll be honest, I'm tired of waiting. You never know what the future holds. Injuries and other bad shit happens. And it seems like Mahomes is possibly having a season for the ages. Those don't come along very often. As another poster mentioned somewhere in this thread (or it might have been another one), the Chiefs are elite in two phases: Offense and ST. Why not take the defense from bad to at least average with an impact player like Earl Thomas??

It is a HUGE position of need for this team right now and would probably make us the front runner in the AFC. The Brady era has got to end sometime . . . . . .
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Old 09-25-2018, 09:18 AM   #1417
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Again, what makes you believe he would be willing to just come here and quietly play out the remainder of his contract? He wants paid right ****ing now and he's willing to act like a total douche to get his way.
The Chiefs aren't the ones who screwed him over on his contract, the Seahawks are. He's pissed at them. He took less money to stay there, with the understanding they would 'make it up' to him down the line on the next contract.

I think he would be fine (for the rest of this season) if he came here or to any other 'contender', knowing he is simply enhancing himself for a BIG payday in the off-season, when he can choose to go wherever he wants (Cowboys?) or to whoever wants to give him the most money.
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Old 09-25-2018, 09:19 AM   #1418
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So the million dollar question is would the Chiefs consider trading one of their 2 second round picks from next year to have him, just for this season, knowing he would walk after the season (probably to the Cowboys) for a big FA contract?

He would get a legitimate shot at a ring. The Chiefs second level defense would be helped out significantly and theoretically, he could stabilize the position till Berry gets back and fully healthy (be that this season or next).

So, do you make the trade knowing you'll just have him for this season and it'll only cost you a second round pick??
No. Working out the long term deal is key. Don't want to trade a #2 for a one-year-rental - That is what my mind tells me...

BUT when I consider the fact that we have TWO #2's, and he is arguably the best at his position - which happens to be a position of GREAT need for the Chiefs, then YES, I'd do it and deal with all that goes with it afterwards. Maybe we can work out a long term deal.
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The Chiefs aren't the ones who screwed him over on his contract, the Seahawks are. He's pissed at them. He took less money to stay there, with the understanding they would 'make it up' to him down the line on the next contract.

I think he would be fine (for the rest of this season) if he came here or to any other 'contender', knowing he is simply enhancing himself for a BIG payday in the off-season, when he can choose to go wherever he wants (Cowboys?) or to whoever wants to give him the most money.
"I need to make sure my body is 100 (percent), and I'm investing in myself. If they were invested in me, I would be out there practicing," Thomas said, per The Seattle Times. "But if I feel like if I have anything, even if it's something small, if I got a headache, I'm not practicing."

Sure sounds like a guy you'd want to burn a 2nd round pick on to be a 1 year rental.
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Old 09-25-2018, 09:27 AM   #1420
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The Chiefs aren't the ones who screwed him over on his contract, the Seahawks are. He's pissed at them. He took less money to stay there, with the understanding they would 'make it up' to him down the line on the next contract.

I think he would be fine (for the rest of this season) if he came here or to any other 'contender', knowing he is simply enhancing himself for a BIG payday in the off-season, when he can choose to go wherever he wants (Cowboys?) or to whoever wants to give him the most money.
Uhhhh no. Earl Thomas is looking for a contract. He's not going to be traded here and then play out the last year of his contract.
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Never understand why folks put such a high emphasis on draft picks. What's the percentage the pick works out? 50? 70?

Why not get the guy with 100 percent chance of being a stud. Trade that pick!
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Never understand why folks put such a high emphasis on draft picks. What's the percentage the pick works out? 50? 70?

Why not get the guy with 100 percent chance of being a stud. Trade that pick!
"I need to make sure my body is 100 (percent), and I'm investing in myself. If they were invested in me, I would be out there practicing," Thomas said, per The Seattle Times. "But if I feel like if I have anything, even if it's something small, if I got a headache, I'm not practicing."

That's why.
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You're bringing up Berry, not me.

He was such a team guy he signed a below market deal and is now pissed about it. Ok. You still signed it and are under contract.
I find this argument so illegitimate. If owners don't guarantee contracts, then I, as a player, wouldn't either.
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"I need to make sure my body is 100 (percent), and I'm investing in myself. If they were invested in me, I would be out there practicing," Thomas said, per The Seattle Times. "But if I feel like if I have anything, even if it's something small, if I got a headache, I'm not practicing."

Sure sounds like a guy you'd want to burn a 2nd round pick on to be a 1 year rental.
Again, I think his 'temper-tantrum' is directed at the Seahawks specifically and the way they have handled things with him. I don't think he would act that way if he ended up on the Chiefs, Patriots, Rams, etc. (pick your contender). He's smart. He and his agent knows he will get paid big in the off-season if he gets to FA. Especially at a time when the league values safety play probably more than it ever has.

And as far as the second round pick goes, I get the logic on both sides. But, to me, the risk (for this season and what it could mean) outweighs the reward (insert random late second round player) of holding onto the pick when you have a chance to land an impact player (even if it is only for one season).


Again, just my opinion.
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Again, I think his 'temper-tantrum' is directed at the Seahawks specifically and the way they have handled things with him. I don't think he would act that way if he ended up on the Chiefs, Patriots, Rams, etc. (pick your contender). He's smart. He and his agent knows he will get paid big in the off-season if he gets to FA. Especially at a time when the league values safety play probably more than it ever has.

And as far as the second round pick goes, I get the logic on both sides. But, to me, the risk (for this season and what it could mean) outweighs the reward (insert random late second round player) of holding onto the pick when you have a chance to land an impact player (even if it is only for one season).


Again, just my opinion.
Good luck if you take that gamble and he ends up being exactly what you thought he was. Now you're down a 2nd round pick and the guy is either going to continue his antics or you pay him an exorbitant amount of money just to shut him up and set a dangerous precedent for future malcontents.
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