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Old 09-23-2018, 08:30 AM  
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Earl Thomas a longshot to be a Chief
They just said on ESPN we were on the list of teams that he could be dealt to.
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Old 09-26-2018, 09:06 AM   #2116
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I was just using your talk about how a dynasty is insanity talk.

They haven't won 2 playoff games in a season in 30 years and you're all in for a SB.
It's like the difference between the odds of winning a scratcher and the odds of winning Powerball.
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Old 09-26-2018, 09:06 AM   #2117
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He said he was born the same year that the Chiefs won the SB, which puts him in the same boat as me. So, yeah, we could go at any time.

I do have a hooded sweatshirt that reads "Just one before I die".
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Old 09-26-2018, 09:07 AM   #2118
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If giving up picks for Earl Thomas because picks are so precious makes no sense, bundling multiple high picks for one player who may or may not even play makes less than no sense.
It made sense for Mahomes.
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If giving up picks for Earl Thomas because picks are so precious makes no sense, bundling multiple high picks for one player who may or may not even play makes less than no sense.
This is why I'd be more likely to make the trade. I'm not all about multiple picks if theres a guy you want that could be a legit blue chip player, go trade the picks and go up and get him.

My biggest issue with Earl is the contract.
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It made sense for Mahomes.
So you're taking the one striking statistical outlier and putting that stake in the ground?

The need defensive help and the last time they traded multiple picks for a defensive player, they got Breeland Speaks.
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This is why I'd be more likely to make the trade. I'm not all about multiple picks if theres a guy you want that could be a legit blue chip player, go trade the picks and go up and get him.

My biggest issue with Earl is the contract.
Why?

What worries you about the contract? When has a contending team EVER had trouble working the cap to get a guy they want?

Is it because we won't be able to sign players 2 years down the road? That's just silly. Money is never an issue, only an excuse.
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So you're taking the one striking statistical outlier and putting that stake in the ground?

The need defensive help and the last time they traded multiple picks for a defensive player, they got Breeland Speaks.
It is a pretty good and recent outlier....

I’d trade a 2nd and 3rd for Thomas. If the long term signing wasn’t too expensive I’d trade a first for him.
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Why?

What worries you about the contract? When has a contending team EVER had trouble working the cap to get a guy they want?

Is it because we won't be able to sign players 2 years down the road? That's just silly. Money is never an issue, only an excuse.
Not really that, just with his age and wear and tear I’m not sure giving him a big deal works out well
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Veach is playing this right. The price WILL come down by 10/30. Seattle will be monumentally stupid if they ask for a 1st, refuse a 2nd and keep this guy to only get (at best) a 3rd rd comp pick.
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Not really that, just with his age and wear and tear I’m not sure giving him a big deal works out well
There's no guarantee a young guy with no wear and tear doesn't bust an ACL in camp and is never the same. See also: Dee Ford
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Veach is playing this right. He price WILL come down by 10/30. Seattle will be monumentally stupid if they ask for a 1st, refuse a 2nd and keep this guy to only get (at best) a 3rd rd comp pick.
If it gets done, I see it getting done before the deadline only because you're right and Seattle will realize the same before 10/30.
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There's no guarantee a young guy with no wear and tear doesn't bust an ACL in camp and is never the same. See also: Dee Ford
Obviously, the odds of an older player breaking down faster is going to be larger.
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The argument is more "why give up the assets when you don't have to?" You can walk away from this with both Earl Thomas and only give up a 2nd and change.
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