Chiefs Earl Thomas a longshot to be a Chief - Page 226

Hog's Gone Fishin · 09-23-2018, 08:30 AM

They just said on ESPN we were on the list of teams that he could be dealt to.

**New World Order** · 09-29-2018, 10:08 PM

booger · 09-29-2018, 10:10 PM

Just getting caught up on today’s Berry news. One thing I think people need to do is separate the 2. Berry his health and contract and a potential Thomas trade are two separate things. Meaning no they wouldn’t need to get Berry to agree to a settlement or contract restructuring before a potential trade. Healthy or not Berry’s contract is too new to renegotiate. They aren’t through the guaranteed years portion of it. Where they say xx amount guaranteed through the first 3 years etc. That contract isn’t getting touched. Even if he was ready to retire right now which is a stretch to say his agent wouldn’t just go along with him and say redo it. Much much worse would be the NFLPA the union would throw a fit. Go look at Shazeer (spell?) and Pittsburgh. He hasn’t yet renegotiated his deal has he? Lots of money involved. Players in that situation would leave too much money on the table. It’s not as simple as a contract restructuring to make cap space available for Thomas. Not with Berry. His contract isn’t optional for that and him being injured just complicates things. IF he is ready to hang it up and retire they will have to go through arbitration to satisfy precedent, his agent and how that makes him look to potential clients, Berry, NFLPA and last priority is fairness to KC in terms of how that affects future cap years. That’s not happening during the season a month before the trade deadline. That’s an off-season of arbitration that would take months rather than days.

Houston and him being excused from practice the other day and the educated guess that it could be to renegotiate to make room for Thomas cap # that’s actually a legit possibility imo. Very strong chance if they are actually exploring making it work. Big thing to watch is does Thomas play tomorrow or do they in activate him? That’s big too. Why play him when a ankle sprain or whatever could ruin a potential trade if it’s close?

booger · 09-29-2018, 10:16 PM

Also NFI list doesn’t erase the players cap# or credit it back to the team. The only deal with NFI is whether they play a player when they are on that list. So that’s the actual cash that’s affected not cap space

htismaqe · 09-29-2018, 11:02 PM

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Berry his health and contract and a potential Thomas trade are two separate things.

yep

Mother****erJones · 09-29-2018, 11:03 PM

Cowherd on his show early on Friday said Seattle is going to lose Earl Thomas to KC reportedly. Where’s he getting that?

**New World Order** · 09-29-2018, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

Cowherd on his show early on said Seattle is going to lose Earl Thomas to KC reportedly. Where’s he getting that?

Simply Red · 09-29-2018, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

Cowherd on his show early on said Seattle is going to lose Earl Thomas to KC reportedly. Where’s he getting that?

he has a show on Saturday?

Mother****erJones · 09-29-2018, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red

he has a show on Saturday?

Sorry forgot to add on Friday. Don’t know why I did that lol

Simply Red · 09-29-2018, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

Sorry forgot to add on Friday. Don’t know why I did that lol

No problem, he didn't EXACTLY say it that black/white - but yeah - something to that effect.

ChiefsFanatic · 09-29-2018, 11:15 PM

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I'm not confident this staff can even identify an elite pass rusher. They thought Speaks was a pass rusher. The only way they draft one is if one literally drops into their lap.

I was talking with someone today, and we were discussing the differences between the talent we identified and acquired on offense, versus the talent we identified and acquired on defense.

I know that Dorsey was also involved, as well as Veach, but it just seems like overall the percentage of offensive players who actually pan out and contribute is much higher on the offensive side of the ball. Of course, the defense has Sutton, so they already have a disadvantage. Anyone who has Houston in coverage almost 30% of his snaps does not seem to understand how to put players in a position to succeed.

Do you think Reid cannot recognize defensive talent, or do you think he doesn't even try because he only thinks about offense, and leaves defensive decisions to others?

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Chiefs Pantalones · 09-29-2018, 11:27 PM

Paylor said each week that goes by his salary gets cheaper. It goes down to $5.5 million I think by the week of the deadline. Expect for him to be dealt then.

Mother****erJones · 09-29-2018, 11:28 PM

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No problem, he didn't EXACTLY say it that black/white - but yeah - something to that effect.

Yes he did. Wasn’t during the Jason McIntyre interview. It was at the 18 min mark of the podcast of his show Friday

Simply Red · 09-29-2018, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

Yes he did. Wasn’t during the Jason McIntyre interview. It was at the 18 min mark of the podcast of his show Friday

oh okay - I hadn't heard that - is there a copy online anywhere? I was thinking you'd meant that other one.

Simply Red · 09-29-2018, 11:46 PM

never mind mother ****er - I found it (good sighting) but he said verbatim 'they're going to lose Earl Thomas to the Chiefs reportedly' - very interesting.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 09-29-2018, 11:59 PM

So there's still hope ?

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booger Don't Tug on Superman's Cape Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: clear out in the sticks Casino cash: $-2361450	Just getting caught up on today’s Berry news. One thing I think people need to do is separate the 2. Berry his health and contract and a potential Thomas trade are two separate things. Meaning no they wouldn’t need to get Berry to agree to a settlement or contract restructuring before a potential trade. Healthy or not Berry’s contract is too new to renegotiate. They aren’t through the guaranteed years portion of it. Where they say xx amount guaranteed through the first 3 years etc. That contract isn’t getting touched. Even if he was ready to retire right now which is a stretch to say his agent wouldn’t just go along with him and say redo it. Much much worse would be the NFLPA the union would throw a fit. Go look at Shazeer (spell?) and Pittsburgh. He hasn’t yet renegotiated his deal has he? Lots of money involved. Players in that situation would leave too much money on the table. It’s not as simple as a contract restructuring to make cap space available for Thomas. Not with Berry. His contract isn’t optional for that and him being injured just complicates things. IF he is ready to hang it up and retire they will have to go through arbitration to satisfy precedent, his agent and how that makes him look to potential clients, Berry, NFLPA and last priority is fairness to KC in terms of how that affects future cap years. That’s not happening during the season a month before the trade deadline. That’s an off-season of arbitration that would take months rather than days. Houston and him being excused from practice the other day and the educated guess that it could be to renegotiate to make room for Thomas cap # that’s actually a legit possibility imo. Very strong chance if they are actually exploring making it work. Big thing to watch is does Thomas play tomorrow or do they in activate him? That’s big too. Why play him when a ankle sprain or whatever could ruin a potential trade if it’s close? __________________ 1 Thessalonians 5:3 “For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.” KJV
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