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Old 11-15-2018, 09:11 AM   #1
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what does this mean
He uses the motion and funky stuff presnap and early in the play but essentially it's just his normal WCO.
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Old 11-15-2018, 09:15 AM   #2
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He uses the motion and funky stuff presnap and early in the play but essentially it's just his normal WCO.
Sure, but I think that's all it really needs to be. Make the D run a bit, get them off balance just enough, and then one of our four All Pro weapons can get open and make a play.

Also, I think Andy has been saving some of his best stuff for late. I think this week's SI profile mentioned a Texas Tech play they installed that they haven't even run yet, but it's supposedly one of Patrick's favs.

I've been critical of Andy Reid in the past, but if there's one thing I trust him to do, it's to keep innovating on offense. I don't think he's close to out of ideas.
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Old 11-15-2018, 09:28 AM   #3
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Sure, but I think that's all it really needs to be. Make the D run a bit, get them off balance just enough, and then one of our four All Pro weapons can get open and make a play.

Also, I think Andy has been saving some of his best stuff for late. I think this week's SI profile mentioned a Texas Tech play they installed that they haven't even run yet, but it's supposedly one of Patrick's favs.

I've been critical of Andy Reid in the past, but if there's one thing I trust him to do, it's to keep innovating on offense. I don't think he's close to out of ideas.
Problem is when you run into disciplined defenses, a lot of that dressing doesn't work as well.

Luckily, the Chiefs have the skill guys to make it go no matter what, but the OL is getting a bit shaky.
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Old 11-16-2018, 05:47 AM   #4
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Problem is when you run into disciplined defenses, a lot of that dressing doesn't work as well.

Luckily, the Chiefs have the skill guys to make it go no matter what, but the OL is getting a bit shaky.
What disciplined defenses are we going to suddenly run into? And what are they going to do that stops the offense that other teams haven't done?

The Arizona game was as vanilla as we've seen the offense and we still scored 26. A 26 point game is our bad game. Think about that for a second.
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Old 11-16-2018, 10:03 AM   #5
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What disciplined defenses are we going to suddenly run into? And what are they going to do that stops the offense that other teams haven't done?

The Arizona game was as vanilla as we've seen the offense and we still scored 26. A 26 point game is our bad game. Think about that for a second.
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The offense struggled against Arizona

Sure they put up 26 which shows how good the offense is but against a better offense that could spell trouble
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Old 11-16-2018, 10:19 AM   #6
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The offense struggled against Arizona

Sure they put up 26 which shows how good the offense is but against a better offense that could spell trouble
Nobody in our way really has a defense as talented and well coached as Arizona though.
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Old 11-16-2018, 10:25 AM   #7
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Nobody in our way really has a defense as talented and well coached as Arizona though.
If Bosa gets back with LA they could present some issues.
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Sure, but I think that's all it really needs to be. Make the D run a bit, get them off balance just enough, and then one of our four All Pro weapons can get open and make a play.

Also, I think Andy has been saving some of his best stuff for late. I think this week's SI profile mentioned a Texas Tech play they installed that they haven't even run yet, but it's supposedly one of Patrick's favs.

I've been critical of Andy Reid in the past, but if there's one thing I trust him to do, it's to keep innovating on offense. I don't think he's close to out of ideas.
This. In years past it hasn't been Andy running out of ideas.. It has been QBs running out of talent
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Old 11-15-2018, 09:31 AM   #9
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He uses the motion and funky stuff presnap and early in the play but essentially it's just his normal WCO.
I have seen enough break downs of games the last few seasons to confidently say that's a bunch off horseshit.

The ESPN article on Reid and Mahomes pretty much laughs at that idea. Yes its "based" on WC offense concepts but has a metric shit ton of other stuff thrown in as well.

Add in the throws Mahomes has the ability to make and there is nothing "normal" about this offense.
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I have seen enough break downs of games the last few seasons to confidently say that's a bunch off horseshit.

The ESPN article on Reid and Mahomes pretty much laughs at that idea. Yes its "based" on WC offense concepts but has a metric shit ton of other stuff thrown in as well.

Add in the throws Mahomes has the ability to make and there is nothing "normal" about this offense.
Just relaying what Simms said. Go listen to the podcast for more I guess.
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Just relaying what Simms said. Go listen to the podcast for more I guess.
I'm not doubting he said it, I just don't buy it.

I suppose one way to look at it is there are only so many routes or plays to be run and the WC offense has been so bastardized you could say every team runs a version of it but that's kind of lazy IMO.
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If the run defense shows up we can win. If mot, it may get ugly. Mahomes has been a dream but he's in his first year and may not have what he needs on the OL to beat tough as nails DL of the Rams.

In short our DL and OL must be bad ass for a win.
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If the run defense shows up we can win. If mot, it may get ugly. Mahomes has been a dream but he's in his first year and may not have what he needs on the OL to beat tough as nails DL of the Rams.

In short our DL and OL must be bad ass for a win.
if MOT?!?!!?! WTF?!?!?!?! LOL
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He uses the motion and funky stuff presnap and early in the play but essentially it's just his normal WCO.
That "presnap" stuff is there so Mahomes can see if the defense shows their hand. If he sees a favorable matchup, he changes the play. They are not doing it just to look fancy and dress up plays. I know it is hard to believe that Mahomes is this good at reading defenses so early in his career, but he is.

Mahomes did this in his first start at Denver- he knew the blitz was coming every time and made the proper read. The last two times they played us, the Donks tried to go with more exotic blitz packages, but by halftime, Mahomes was on to them and torched them on big plays. New England did the same thing- they did a great job of disguising their coverages until Mahomes and Andy figured it out and reprogrammed his computer. We owned them the second half.
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