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Old 11-22-2018, 08:00 PM   #1
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That's a whole different question altogether. I'd be right there with you on that one. I personally would love it if officials also made statements after the game. I think European soccer does it if I remember correctly. I guess it might make the mob even more angry, but for me I would actually be able to get over calls if I actually heard the human being explain himself.
This is directed at everyone, but NJChiefsFan's comment made me think about it.

We know that no human being is perfect, so we can't reasonably expect 100 percent accuracy and consistency on officials' calls. If we fed truth serum to officials and then interviewed them, they'd admit on some calls that they messed up. Even if they don't, a detailed review would show errors on some calls.

So recognizing that we can't find a perfect official, what's the minimum accuracy rate that's acceptable? Is it 90%? 95%? 99%? 99.0%? Assume that these are errors that aren't corrected via review.
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Old 11-22-2018, 08:05 PM   #2
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This is directed at everyone, but NJChiefsFan's comment made me think about it.

We know that no human being is perfect, so we can't reasonably expect 100 percent accuracy and consistency on officials' calls. If we fed truth serum to officials and then interviewed them, they'd admit on some calls that they messed up. Even if they don't, a detailed review would show errors on some calls.

So recognizing that we can't find a perfect official, what's the minimum accuracy rate that's acceptable? Is it 90%? 95%? 99%? 99.0%? Assume that these are errors that aren't corrected via review.
It would be easier to swallow if it weren't 90% of the blown calls against one team or for another. Just sayin' man.
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Old 11-22-2018, 08:09 PM   #3
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It would be easier to swallow if it weren't 90% of the blown calls against one team or for another. Just sayin' man.
That's a good point. So maybe the key isn't improving officiating, but being sure that it's consistent. I don't know if that's easier to solve, but it might be.
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That's a good point. So maybe the key isn't improving officiating, but being sure that it's consistent. I don't know if that's easier to solve, but it might be.
Half of the fight is actually fighting, something I have rarely seen from Reid or our players. Look at the Donkeys I can still hear them complaining about that call/non call against them vs us earlier this year. Oh ya the delay of game, the entire donkey collective let it known it was bs and was even heavily covered in the media for a few days.
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Old 11-23-2018, 12:40 AM   #5
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That's a good point. So maybe the key isn't improving officiating, but being sure that it's consistent. I don't know if that's easier to solve, but it might be.
I also think sometimes we assume refs enjoy calling in favor of the offense. The league creates the new rules. The refs get stuck trying to make black and white calls on grey rules. The unfair advantage for the wr drives me nuts at times.

Again maybe I'm in the minority but if I heard a guy, or the league, just admit when the call got ****ed up I would move on easier. NHL does it sometimes. NFL does it once in a blue moon.

Like when the ump admitted he screwed up the white Sox no hitter a few years back. I went from blasting the guy to respecting him. Same thing when I'm coaching baseball. Ump tells me he missed a call, I don't have much left to say.

It's when they won't talk to each other or to the coach, when they won't explain themselves or know the rules that I get mad.

Like tripplett. I don't care that a ref screws up. But this guy is in a game he doesn't deserve to be in and seems to care little that he royally blew a call. He just rides into the sunset. If he said "damn I can't believe my last act as a ref included that call", I could actually let it go. Nope. Nothing from him or the league.
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Old 11-23-2018, 12:50 AM   #6
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I also think sometimes we assume refs enjoy calling in favor of the offense. The league creates the new rules. The refs get stuck trying to make black and white calls on grey rules. The unfair advantage for the wr drives me nuts at times.

Again maybe I'm in the minority but if I heard a guy, or the league, just admit when the call got ****ed up I would move on easier. NHL does it sometimes. NFL does it once in a blue moon.

Like when the ump admitted he screwed up the white Sox no hitter a few years back. I went from blasting the guy to respecting him. Same thing when I'm coaching baseball. Ump tells me he missed a call, I don't have much left to say.

It's when they won't talk to each other or to the coach, when they won't explain themselves or know the rules that I get mad.

Like tripplett. I don't care that a ref screws up. But this guy is in a game he doesn't deserve to be in and seems to care little that he royally blew a call. He just rides into the sunset. If he said "damn I can't believe my last act as a ref included that call", I could actually let it go. Nope. Nothing from him or the league.
NFL refs just walk around looking everywhere but the sidelines on questionable calls. Sorry, didn't hear a word you said.
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Old 11-23-2018, 09:26 AM   #7
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NFL refs just walk around looking everywhere but the sidelines on questionable calls. Sorry, didn't hear a word you said.
You know, after watching those games yesterday, I am more confused than ever about the actual problem with the officiating.

I don't think it is a single issue.

The game/rules has become too complicated and fast for them to even be above average on accuracy. It seems like when the pace is slow, they get it right, but when it gets hectic, the officials cave.

Throw in the human factor of the home crowd, NFL marketing agendas and we have the current product.

That hit yesterday at the end of the Redskins game on the receiver was just astounding that it didn't draw a flag. The official just ignored it when confronted. I would bet it will draw a fine.

I have seen numerous hits on QBs in the last week that were much rougher than those that were drawing roughing calls earlier in other games.

All three favorites covered yesterday. Coincidence? I honestly have no idea what is going on, other than entertainment.
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You know, after watching those games yesterday, I am more confused than ever about the actual problem with the officiating.

I don't think it is a single issue.

The game/rules has become too complicated and fast for them to even be above average on accuracy. It seems like when the pace is slow, they get it right, but when it gets hectic, the officials cave.

Throw in the human factor of the home crowd, NFL marketing agendas and we have the current product.

That hit yesterday at the end of the Redskins game on the receiver was just astounding that it didn't draw a flag. The official just ignored it when confronted. I would bet it will draw a fine.

I have seen numerous hits on QBs in the last week that were much rougher than those that were drawing roughing calls earlier in other games.

All three favorites covered yesterday. Coincidence? I honestly have no idea what is going on, other than entertainment.
Yet some will claim the officials aren't having the NFLs priorities and concerns expressed to them, but the focus of calls seem to change. Kind of odd.

Oh, and offensive holding is neither complicated nor difficult to see, they just need to start calling it. And call it with the same standard for holding that's applied to the defensive secondary.
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This is directed at everyone, but NJChiefsFan's comment made me think about it.

We know that no human being is perfect, so we can't reasonably expect 100 percent accuracy and consistency on officials' calls. If we fed truth serum to officials and then interviewed them, they'd admit on some calls that they messed up. Even if they don't, a detailed review would show errors on some calls.

So recognizing that we can't find a perfect official, what's the minimum accuracy rate that's acceptable? Is it 90%? 95%? 99%? 99.0%? Assume that these are errors that aren't corrected via review.
I'd like to ask them why a tug of the jersey in the secondary is a penalty and a spot foul, but jersey tugs on the O-line aren't, and why don't they call it when Chiefs defenders have the O-linemen's arms wrapped around their necks? And "I didn't see it" isn't OK, it's happen right in front of them, that's a lie. I know the answer is, "The NFL says it wants more scoring", we all know that, I just want to hear them admit it.
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