Andy's Presser and Play calling

[tooge]

Great game. I'm very encouraged moving forward with this team. Lost on the road, by 3 pts, to one of the best offenses in the league. And, had a chance to end it with a dropped INT and a drive with 1:50 to go. I'll take it.

However, Andy Reid mentioned he could've called better plays in the game, and I couldn't agree more. Particularly on the second from last drive. Chiefs get the ball back with 1:50 to go, down by 3 and all 3 timeouts, Rams have none. They get the ball to the 45 ish with a pass to Tyreek with about 1:20 left if I remember correctly, and still 3 timeouts and the clock stopped. They need maybe 20 yards to be in FG range, but obviously want a TD for the win.

Next play is the play where Mahomes is hit as he throws and it's picked by Peters. When the strength of the defense is the D line and it's rush, why not use the screen, draw, WR screens, bubbles, etc to work down the field instead of having Mahomes drop back with nothing but slow developing plays? I'm guessing that's what Andy is talking about. I know, you can second guess anything, but I was watching and thinking, don't try to get it all right here. Next play, game over. Frustrating. I'd think having Hunt in the mix at the end, with high percentage passes would have been the way to go rather than 5-7 step drop plays. Anyhow, great game. Chiefs gonna end up 14-2 with HVA throughout.

[Imon Yourside]

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

3 timeouts.
Ball on the LA 48.
1:28 left.
Why not run KHunt a few times there with the middle wide open?

OT should have been the worst outcome from that series.

Right it's all about clock management something Reid is absolutely horrible at and seems to never realize is part of the game.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

He probably WAS trying to hit Conley; the defender hit his arm, causing the throw to hang high, short, and wide of the intended target.

If he was trying to hit Conley he waited way too long. Conley was open for a long time, and even more so when his defender stumbled. After seeing that, I don't get why the playcall was bad. If Conley makes that catch, then the worst case scenario is that we kick a FG.
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[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

Right it's all about clock management something Reid is absolutely horrible at and seems to never realize is part of the game.

Full Reidtard.

Originally Posted by -King-

If he was trying to hit Conley he waited way too long. Conley was open for a long time, and even more so when his defender stumbled. After seeing that, I don't get why the playcall was bad. If Conley makes that catch, then the worst case scenario is that we kick a FG.

Either the call sucked because there were no intermediate routes attacking the (open) middle of the field - we had a timeout - or it just sucked because Mahomes plain old held the ball too long and got hit as he threw.

On that play, Reid sucked, the line sucked, the blocking sucked, the decision sucked, the timing sucked, and getting hit while he passed sucked.

There was a whole lot of suckblame to go around on that one.

[ChiefsFanatic]

Originally Posted by Eleazar

Nothing to complain about last night with respect to play calling.

I disagree. We had the ball like, what, on the two yardline, and he called two option plays that ran parallel to the goal line.

We have a high powered offense, with a back like Hunt, a tight end like Kelce, a speedster like Hill, and an "Offensive Genius" calling plays, and that genius couldn't call a better play to get the ball into the endzone?

And as the game went on, except for one TD pass to Hunt, we really failed to use the defense's aggressiveness against them. Some of the plays that led to sacks and pressure on Mahomes didn't even have crossing routes, or a safety valve in the flats.

Reid called a lot of plays that had routes which took time to develop. Time the offensive line could not deliver.

Reid was obviously aware that we had second string, and third string, backup offensive linemen trying to block the best defensive player in the NFL. Not only were we trying to block Donald with backups, but Reid saw the game tape from the previous week where Seattle ran all over the Rams, negating some of Donald's dominance. But did Reid take any cues from that Seattle game? No.

Did our offense score 44 points? Yes. But was the play calling without error? HELL NO. And Reid also showed once again that he doesn't have the ability to manage the clock at the end of games.

Overall, the Chiefs played great offensively, and it does seem silly to suggest that a team that scored 44 points on offense could have done better, but the truth is the play calling could have been better.

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[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

3 timeouts.
Ball on the LA 48.
1:28 left.
Why not run KHunt a few times there with the middle wide open?

OT should have been the worst outcome from that series.

I've criticized Reid for being too conservative with his play calling late in games. But, this was a situation to run the ball and eat the clock up.


That being said, you play to win the game.

[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I've criticized Reid for being too conservative with his play calling late in games. But, this was a situation to run the ball and eat the clock up.


That being said, you play to win the game.

It’s hard to try & not to score quickly there. I just think a few runs to get the clock below 45 seconds would have been nice.

Situational football is difficult but I feel that’s where Belichick & Brady are geniuses.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by -King-

If he was trying to hit Conley he waited way too long. Conley was open for a long time, and even more so when his defender stumbled. After seeing that, I don't get why the playcall was bad. If Conley makes that catch, then the worst case scenario is that we kick a FG.
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It’s because you’re dealing with a bunch of ****ing morons. The playcall was fine. He clearly had Conley for an easy 1st down and more.

If Andy ran Hunt up the middle “a few times” for no gain they’d bitch about that too. Reid can’t ****ing win. He’s either too aggressive or too conservative with these butt****ing morons. As long as he’s being aggressive, you won’t hear me complaining.

[O.city]

Mahomes stayed on hill too long there. He needed to come to Conley earlier and throw it

It happens. I’d wait and give hill as much time as I could too

[O.city]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I'm gonna guess Andy Reid would like this playcall back.

This is pretty aggressive down 3 from the 49 with 1:28 left and three timeouts. pic.twitter.com/XtGFSo5Y7T

— Clay W. (name withheld) (@ClayW. (name withheld)) November 20, 2018

Embarrassingly bad playcall here. Andy went full Reidtard. Let’s review:

-Not a single intermediate route in the middle of the goddamn field against the best pass rusher in football who has killed you all night holding the ball. Did we not learn that long developing plays can’t happen against this team? Why in this situation? If Conley’s route simply breaks across the field around the first down marker instead of continuing to go downfield, Pat most likely throws it earlier to a wide open receiver.
-Conley beats his man but his route goes toward the other receivers route is (Robinson?).
-why the **** are we going for it all on 1st down at the LA 48 with 1:28 left in the game and all of our timeouts? Wtf Andy?
-Watkins is already out of the game and you effectively took Kelce out of the play too as a blocker while having Kareem be an option in the flat instead of an intermediate option.

Pure, dumbfounding unapologetic bullshit. That INT isn’t on Mahomes. It’s on ****ing Andy.

Conley is open on an intermediate route in the middle of the field. They rolled the pocket to get away from Donald

Pat needs to throw it to Conley when he’s open

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by -King-

If he was trying to hit Conley he waited way too long. Conley was open for a long time, and even more so when his defender stumbled. After seeing that, I don't get why the playcall was bad. If Conley makes that catch, then the worst case scenario is that we kick a FG.
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Mahomes didn’t throw it to Conley quickly because he was looking at Tyreek first.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I've criticized Reid for being too conservative with his play calling late in games. But, this was a situation to run the ball and eat the clock up.


That being said, you play to win the game.

You have to be smart. Andy is running a play with 3 receivers going long.

You score and the Rams have over a minute to win it. It was 1st and 10 and we had all 3 time outs.

Run the clock

[O.city]

I don’t think Conley scores there though. I’m guessing he’s tackled at about the 15

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by RunKC

You have to be smart. Andy is running a play with 3 receivers going long.

You score and the Rams have over a minute to win it. It was 1st and 10 and we had all 3 time outs.

Run the clock

With a minute and a half, 3 timeouts at midfield, and a 3 point game basically everything was an option.

The only thing you really want to avoid is a quick score or a sack. So... avoid deep drops.

Quick passes and runs.

I have a feeling Andy was feeling pretty invincible at that point.

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by Iowanian

I refuse to listen to complaints about play calling when the Chiefs put 51 points on the board.

I'd be pleased to listen to discussion and comment about defensive decisions when the team gives up 54.

The problem is that KC's offense scored some of those 54 FOR the Rams.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by staylor26

It’s because you’re dealing with a bunch of ****ing morons. The playcall was fine. He clearly had Conley for an easy 1st down and more.

If Andy ran Hunt up the middle “a few times” for no gain they’d bitch about that too. Reid can’t ****ing win. He’s either too aggressive or too conservative with these butt****ing morons. As long as he’s being aggressive, you won’t hear me complaining.

I tend to agree with your overall point, but at the same time if we are in the SB against the Rams or to me even worse, the Saints, idk what I would do. Most of me feels you just get the TD and hope for the best.

That being said, I trust the offense to drain the clock and still get a TD more than I trust the D to protect the lead afterwards. If Berry is back that would affect it as well. I would say with the Saints, I would really consider risking it by draining the clock. Brees is not likely to throw a ball to Scandrick. I personally would not blame Reid for taking that approach. I really don't blame him for the approach he took either.