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Buckweath · 01-03-2019, 11:24 AM

Criticizing Dorsey, as for drafting, is just silly, silly.

He was outstanding at drafting during his Chiefs tenure and guess what, he has been great with the Browns again this past draft.

He is very much part of the reason why this team is a top 3 In the league and potential great team for years to come.

As usual, some fans have totally unrealistic expectations when it comes to the draft.

I trust Veach to be good too. He just better do well this offseason because I am expecting next year's team to be possibly the best of all the years to come, including this year.

Mahomes in his second year starting. Some star players getting older but still in their prime. Star players on contract years. Yeah, Veach better not miss.

OKchiefs · 01-03-2019, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Buckweath

Criticizing Dorsey, as for drafting, is just silly, silly.

He was outstanding at drafting during his Chiefs tenure and guess what, he has been great with the Browns again this past draft.

He is very much part of the reason why this team is a top 3 In the league and potential great team for years to come.

As usual, some fans have totally unrealistic expectations when it comes to the draft.

I trust Veach to be good too. He just better do well this offseason because I am expecting next year's team to be possibly the best of all the years to come, including this year.

Mahomes in his second year starting. Some star players getting older but still in their prime. Star players on contract years. Yeah, Veach better not miss.

I don't see how it's so hard to acknowledge that Dorsey drafted very well on offense but overall was awful at finding defensive talent.

**dirk digler** · 01-03-2019, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs

I don't see how it's so hard to acknowledge that Dorsey drafted very well on offense but overall was awful at finding defensive talent.

Makes you wonder who is actually the person that is deciding such things.

Buckweath · 01-03-2019, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs

I don't see how it's so hard to acknowledge that Dorsey drafted very well on offense but overall was awful at finding defensive talent.

Dorsey was outstanding at drafting overall. If he had found more star players on defense and less on offense, you would be complaining about both offense and defense so it doesn't make any difference.

Dorsey definitly had more hits on offense but Jones, Ford, Peters, Nelson were all solid picks.

OKchiefs · 01-03-2019, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Buckweath

Dorsey was outstanding at drafting overall. If he had found more star players on defense and less on offense, you would be complaining about both offense and defense so it doesn't make any difference.

Dorsey definitly had more hits on offense but Jones, Ford, Peters, Nelson were all solid picks.

Peters is a head case and no longer here, and Steven Nelson is a JAG. The two defensive picks worth anything are Jones and Ford. 2 players in 5 or so years is not good. The current status of the secondary and the inside linebackers is due to constant scouting failures by the Chiefs on defense.Kpass, Russell, Gaines, etc. were awful draft picks. We actually found steals late in the draft on offense like Hill and LDT. We struck out on just about every single draft pick on defense outside of the first 2 rounds. The last late round find we had on defense was probably Brandon Carr in 2008. You can't go an entire decade without a single pick panning out from day 3.

By comparison, look at the LAC-
Jatavis Brown, 5th Rd 2016
Desmond King, 5th Rd 2017
Darius Philon, 6th Rd 2015

That's not necessarily a huge difference at first glance, but it helps immensely when coupled with early round picks like Ingram, Bosa, James, etc. We've found jack shit with our late round picks on defense.

RunKC · 01-03-2019, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Buckweath

Dorsey was outstanding at drafting overall. If he had found more star players on defense and less on offense, you would be complaining about both offense and defense so it doesn't make any difference.

Dorsey definitly had more hits on offense but Jones, Ford, Peters, Nelson were all solid picks.

Dorsey doesn’t get credit for Peters. He was 100% wrong about him on his character evaluation.

And as much as you won’t admit this, Andy Reid most likely played more of a part of finding our offensive players than Dorsey.

Andy was finding elite players in the draft in Philly without Dorsey.

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Buckweath Veteran Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Quebec, Canada Casino cash: $9994975	Criticizing Dorsey, as for drafting, is just silly, silly. He was outstanding at drafting during his Chiefs tenure and guess what, he has been great with the Browns again this past draft. He is very much part of the reason why this team is a top 3 In the league and potential great team for years to come. As usual, some fans have totally unrealistic expectations when it comes to the draft. I trust Veach to be good too. He just better do well this offseason because I am expecting next year's team to be possibly the best of all the years to come, including this year. Mahomes in his second year starting. Some star players getting older but still in their prime. Star players on contract years. Yeah, Veach better not miss.
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