Chiefs That was our best shot and we missed it - Page 7

staylor26 · 01-22-2019, 05:29 AM

I know it sounds irrational because it was essentially just year 1 for Mahomes, but this was probably our best ****ing shot and we failed (because of a ****ing offsides penalty). We have two more years of Mahomes on his rookie deal (he’ll get paid before year 5), and I just feel like it’s unlikely that we get the 1st seed with a relatively injury free season again before it’s time to pay up.

staylor26 · 01-22-2019, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed

How do we know Mahomes won’t take a discount? What if he decides to go the Brady route?

If by “deciding to go the Brady route” you mean Clark paying Pat under the table you’re REALLY dreaming

stevieray · 01-22-2019, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

I’m sure our bookend OT’s, Mahomes, Hill, and Kelce will all be healthy all of next year

why wouldn't they be?

Are you trying to jinx us by continuing to talk about injuries that haven't happened?

KChiefs1 · 01-22-2019, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

I know it sounds irrational because it was essentially just year 1 for Mahomes, but this was probably our best ****ing shot and we failed (because of a ****ing offsides penalty). We have two more years of Mahomes on his rookie deal (he’ll get paid before year 5), and I just feel like it’s unlikely that we get the 1st seed with a relatively injury free season again before it’s time to pay up.

This was probably our worst shot.

1st year starting QB with the worst defense in the NFL.

**LoneWolf** · 01-22-2019, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

I’m sure our bookend OT’s, Mahomes, Hill, and Kelce will all be healthy all of next year

Why not? Hill and Kelce have been durable and Schwartz hasn’t missed a snap in several seasons. Fisher has been healthy the last two years as well.

Stop being such a pussy.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 01-22-2019, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

Hell, we were already playing with a cap handicap this year anyway. Just look at all the wasteful spending on defense. You add all that up and it's pretty damn close to the future cap hit of Mahomes.

This right here....

Yeah Mahomes' deal is going to cost a lot, but we incidentally wasted more cap space this year than they probably ever will again. We got very little value out of the cap this year outside of Mahomes, Hill, Schwartz, and Jones. Almost everyone else was overpaid by what they received, some by a very large margin.

You have to remember, the Chiefs are highly likely to get players to sign here for below market value every year now because they know Mahomes can win them a ring.

staylor26 · 01-22-2019, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Why not? Hill and Kelce have been durable and Schwartz hasn’t missed a snap in several seasons. Fisher has been healthy the last two years as well.

Stop being such a pussy.

You’re right I guess it’s the “because Chiefs” feeling but I just know that if we somehow get signicalty better defensively we’ll lose a key piece on offense.

How can you not feel this way after we’ve been waiting so long for a QB/offense and when we finally have one our defense goes to shit?

**Rausch** · 01-22-2019, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

I know it sounds irrational because it was essentially just year 1 for Mahomes, but this was probably our best ****ing shot and we failed (because of a ****ing offsides penalty).

It was our FIRST shot and we probably should have gone to the SB.

The first year our young QB starts and he was a coin toss away from a SB.

****, there really is no pleasing some people...

pugsnotdrugs19 · 01-22-2019, 08:42 AM

Another thing staylor--there is a solid chance that the back 2/3rds of the roster will be better in the coming years. While Veach is far from perfect right now (what GM isn't?), one thing he has been undisputedly better about than Dorsey is building the depth of the roster. He has found several cheap and young options for next to nothing. He will continue to do that, and I would imagine his draft is going to be much better with the picks at his disposal this season as it compares to last.

Be patient. This team wasn't even supposed to contend this year in their minds, they were always building toward 2019. The only thing that changed is Mahomes damn near carried their horrific defense a year in advance all the way.

Sassy Squatch · 01-22-2019, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

You’re right I guess it’s the “because Chiefs” feeling but I just know that if we somehow get signicalty better defensively we’ll lose a key piece on offense.

How can you not feel this way after we’ve been waiting so long for a QB/offense and when we finally have one our defense goes to shit?

You're still emotional after the loss. Take a step back, have a stiff drink, and put it behind you. Mahomes proved Sunday night that he'll never be out of a game, even after an abysmal first half by the offense as a whole. We were an offsides away from a Super Bowl despite having the worst defense in the playoffs. We'll be fine.

kcpasco · 01-22-2019, 08:43 AM

Need to have the 1 or 2 seed to have a legitimate shot. That’s not an easy thing to do consistently. Only the Patriots have shown that consistency along with 5 head lead teams. And the Colts only won 1 Super Bowl because of shit defenses.

Sassy Squatch · 01-22-2019, 08:44 AM

Just look at the teams on the fringe of the playoffs this year. Teams like the Titans and Vikings were still in the mix up to the final week of the regular season.

Fish · 01-22-2019, 08:44 AM

sChickenLittle thread.

**Rausch** · 01-22-2019, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Be patient. This team wasn't even supposed to contend this year in their minds, they were always building toward 2019. The only thing that changed is Mahomes damn near carried their horrific defense a year in advance all the way.

This.

Plus a ton of dead cap falls off the books this offseason and depending on who we keep/cut we'll have between 25 and 40 million to spend.

Clearly resigning Hunt is no longer an issue...

pugsnotdrugs19 · 01-22-2019, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco

Need to have the 1 or 2 seed to have a legitimate shot. That’s not an easy thing to do consistently. Only the Patriots have shown that consistency along with 5 head lead teams. And the Colts only won 1 Super Bowl because of shit defenses.

While largely true, nothing gives you a better chance on the road in playoff games than a playmaking QB. See Rodgers 2010.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 01-22-2019, 08:49 AM

The Packers have been paying a premiere cap percentage to Rodgers for almost a decade now, and more often than not they have been right in the thick of the SB hunt DESPITE really poor drafting. They also never would sign anyone in FA even when they had the money to do so. It finally caught up to them this year, as Rodgers wasn't his elite self to carry them to the playoffs and the coaching wore thin.

But my point is, GB handled things about as poorly as you can around a superstar QB for the past 8 or so seasons and they were still often right there in the top 4-8 teams. I don't see the Chiefs doing that poorly. Say what you will about Clark and Andy, but I have zero doubt that they will do what it takes to win.

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staylor26 In Search of a Life Join Date: Oct 2007 Casino cash: $-1930960	That was our best shot and we missed it I know it sounds irrational because it was essentially just year 1 for Mahomes, but this was probably our best **ing shot and we failed (because of a **ing offsides penalty). We have two more years of Mahomes on his rookie deal (he’ll get paid before year 5), and I just feel like it’s unlikely that we get the 1st seed with a relatively injury free season again before it’s time to pay up.
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pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $6629447	Another thing staylor--there is a solid chance that the back 2/3rds of the roster will be better in the coming years. While Veach is far from perfect right now (what GM isn't?), one thing he has been undisputedly better about than Dorsey is building the depth of the roster. He has found several cheap and young options for next to nothing. He will continue to do that, and I would imagine his draft is going to be much better with the picks at his disposal this season as it compares to last. Be patient. This team wasn't even supposed to contend this year in their minds, they were always building toward 2019. The only thing that changed is Mahomes damn near carried their horrific defense a year in advance all the way.
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kcpasco MVP Join Date: Sep 2007 Casino cash: $6143463	Need to have the 1 or 2 seed to have a legitimate shot. That’s not an easy thing to do consistently. Only the Patriots have shown that consistency along with 5 head lead teams. And the Colts only won 1 Super Bowl because of shit defenses.
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Sassy Squatch The man you could post like. Join Date: Oct 2010 Casino cash: $-1260345	Just look at the teams on the fringe of the playoffs this year. Teams like the Titans and Vikings were still in the mix up to the final week of the regular season.
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01-22-2019, 08:49 AM	#105
pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $6629447	The Packers have been paying a premiere cap percentage to Rodgers for almost a decade now, and more often than not they have been right in the thick of the SB hunt DESPITE really poor drafting. They also never would sign anyone in FA even when they had the money to do so. It finally caught up to them this year, as Rodgers wasn't his elite self to carry them to the playoffs and the coaching wore thin. But my point is, GB handled things about as poorly as you can around a superstar QB for the past 8 or so seasons and they were still often right there in the top 4-8 teams. I don't see the Chiefs doing that poorly. Say what you will about Clark and Andy, but I have zero doubt that they will do what it takes to win.
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