Gronkowski mulling retirement

[Red Dawg]

Originally Posted by Setsuna

Hey OP wasn't Brady supposed to be done already? Your threads outside of Mahomes are trash tier.

He may as well be. Bill got it done
Bradys 2 td and 3 int playoff performance is hardly good. Only reason he won was Dee Ford penalty on the same play he threw another int. Lucky overrated mother ****er.

[Angry fan]

Originally Posted by Red Dawg

He may as well be. Bill got it done
Bradys 2 td and 3 int playoff performance is hardly good. Only reason he won was Dee Ford penalty on the same play he threw another int. Lucky overrated mother ****er.

What I find interesting is how the same reason he was drafted in the 6th round is the same reason people say he's overrated. After almost 20 years in the NFL, you'd think people would finally get it. Someones gotta lead the offense, and he's the guy that does it so well. I don't think Brady cares about stats before winning. So he'll happily just hand the ball off if that's the best course of action. That's what he did this season, gotta give it to him. He's a field general. Exactly what you want from your quarterback. I'd want Mahomes to become more like Brady and less like Rodgers. Save the heroics for the truly desperate situations.

I go back to that 4th down miracle throw against the Ravens. Two(one of them) ravens DB's blew the coverage, Mahomes should have thrown it to that receiver for a 1st down and get the clock stopped.

[stevegroganfan]

Originally Posted by Angry fan

What I find interesting is how the same reason he was drafted in the 6th round is the same reason people say he's overrated. After almost 20 years in the NFL, you'd think people would finally get it. Someones gotta lead the offense, and he's the guy that does it so well. I don't think Brady cares about stats before winning. So he'll happily just hand the ball off if that's the best course of action. That's what he did this season, gotta give it to him. He's a field general. Exactly what you want from your quarterback. I'd want Mahomes to become more like Brady and less like Rodgers. Save the heroics for the truly desperate situations.

I go back to that 4th down miracle throw against the Ravens. Two(one of them) ravens DB's blew the coverage, Mahomes should have thrown it to that receiver for a 1st down and get the clock stopped.

As a Patriots fan, I agree with you that the Chiefs should design their team to have Mahomes play more like Brady and go for the home run less. Go inside out but just use the outside threat to make the inside game easier. The Patriots with Moss learned, you may destroy most teams with the long ball threat but at a certain point, you may wish you had more of a short to intermediate passing game/running attack against the best teams.

I think the draft narrative is why Brady does get underrated in comparison to other qb's despite all of his accomplishments which include beating out a much more hyped QB in college that was a local favorite. Fans can point to all of his "good luck" which is often true to a certain extent since football in part is a game of luck but they forget to mention his bad luck. In his first two Super Bowl losses, the most important Patriot(Brady) and the second most important Patriot(Gronk) were playing hurt. Gronk's injury was severe. It was more minor but even against Philly Brady was playing hurt and Hightower/Edelman were out with season ending injuries and Cooks got concussed early. Injuries and freak plays are a part of the game -- Chiefs had them vs Patriots -- and the Patriots have had those things go for them and go against them. But in general have designed the team with a bit more depth so they can overcome injuries to starters like Chung or Rodney Harrison in the Super Bowl. Anyways, Brady beat out a former #1 pick in the draft who had very recently signed the first 100 million dollar contract for a QB in the NFL and had made pro bowls and had helped his team to Super Bowl several years earlier. And even when he was older and had lost his job was I believe still traded for a first round pick.

Brady excels at doing things that win a bunch of football games in the short to long run. He doesn't excel at doing things that look great at an NFL combine. But realistically, he has always had enough arm strength to get the job done and after a certain point, increased arm strength if you are throwing passes your hardest is a negative since receivers more likely to drop them.