Matt Miller Mock - Page 3

O.city · 03-25-2019, 07:59 AM

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Bradburry in round 1 with Adderley on the board would be a little upsetting but we'll see.

BryanBusby · 03-25-2019, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

The safety class seems to be setting up to be one where they're all bunched together. Each team will probably have them rated differently.

Which is all you need to know. None of them can stand out from the rest of the crowd.

Chris Meck · 03-25-2019, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

I would beg to differ. People are getting hot and adamant about the fact the Chiefs gotta land him. Man, I just don't see it. His tape isn't bad but it's not special and there are so many options at Safety, some that are better. They have some options already on the team, and you've got Tre Boston out there begging for work.

It's not that big of a priority when we only have like 3 DE's and none of them are ideal, ya know? But the main point is the Adderly tape is solid, but not special. Lets relax.

It's just that literally every time I run a mock, he's the best player available at what I would call a position of need.

The second tier CB's all make it into our 2nds, some good DE's are always there in our 2nds.

It rarely falls to where there's a guy that's any better in that range is all. And paired with HB, that's a pretty great safety combo.

BryanBusby · 03-25-2019, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

It's just that literally every time I run a mock, he's the best player available at what I would call a position of need.

The second tier CB's all make it into our 2nds, some good DE's are always there in our 2nds.

It rarely falls to where there's a guy that's any better in that range is all. And paired with HB, that's a pretty great safety combo.

He's nothing special. It's a deep class. If that's your best option at 29 than either you need to move up or down.

It feels like I took a time warp back to 2009 where everyone got excited over Aaron Curry's tape and I'm like uh, where's the great shit at? I'm a big CGJ fan and I'm not going to lose it if they say **** it and just settle with what they've already got or just signed practice girl, Tre Boston at the end of the draft. I think we've already improved with a SS that isn't a broken down pile of dicks and not reeruned coaching/coverage designs.

Chris Meck · 03-25-2019, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

He's nothing special. It's a deep class. If that's your best option at 29 than either you need to move up or down.

It feels like I took a time warp back to 2009 where everyone got excited over Aaron Curry's tape and I'm like uh, where's the great shit at?

Yeah, I'm just not going to pay money to have trade options added to my little mock draft fun-time. I mean, it's fun and all, but naw.

I would totally take a #3 to move back into the 2nd round.

BryanBusby · 03-25-2019, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Yeah, I'm just going to pay money to have trade options added to my little mock draft fun-time. I mean, it's fun and all, but naw.

I would totally take a #3 to move back into the 2nd round.

Don't take what I say the wrong way. Hey if he's on the board at the end of Round 2 and they take him, great IMO. I just don't think he's what I would make the #1 priority is all when we have minimal assets at DE and CB (no real #1).

Chris Meck · 03-25-2019, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Don't take what I say the wrong way. Hey if he's on the board at the end of Round 2 and they take him, great IMO. I just don't think he's what I would make the #1 priority is all when we have minimal assets at DE and CB (no real #1).

meant to say 'not' going to pay to upgrade to trades in the mock.

not really arguing with you; just explaining.

I like Adderley and I think he makes the safety group 'elite'. We just had a season of an 'elite' pass rush, and ended up #31 and couldn't get a stop when we needed it.

I think a few of the 2nd round corners have #1 ceilings. They have lower floors too, but unless Greedy Williams falls to #29 I don't see a sure-fire #1 (and I'm not 100% on him either. It seems like the LSU guys never reach their athletic potential to me. Like the coaching there is lackadaisical or something).

Baker is I think a #2. Murphy's a maybe. I think Ya-Sin or Oruwariye have more potential and usually one of them is there in our #2 range if not both.

BryanBusby · 03-25-2019, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

meant to say 'not' going to pay to upgrade to trades in the mock.

not really arguing with you; just explaining.

I like Adderley and I think he makes the safety group 'elite'. We just had a season of an 'elite' pass rush, and ended up #31 and couldn't get a stop when we needed it.

I think a few of the 2nd round corners have #1 ceilings. They have lower floors too, but unless Greedy Williams falls to #29 I don't see a sure-fire #1 (and I'm not 100% on him either. It seems like the LSU guys never reach their athletic potential to me. Like the coaching there is lackadaisical or something).

Baker is I think a #2. Murphy's a maybe. I think Ya-Sin or Oruwariye have more potential and usually one of them is there in our #2 range if not both.

I'm more of in the market of trading for a proven #1 CB. The ones I feel that have potential are more projects and the Chiefs have a pretty short window before they really need to change things up.

If they're penciling in Ward or Breeland as the #1 corner, it's gonna be a long ****ing year.

Chris Meck · 03-25-2019, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

I'm more of in the market of trading for a proven #1 CB. The ones I feel that have potential are more projects and the Chiefs have a pretty sort window before they really need to change things up.

If they're penciling in Ward or Breeland as the #1 corner, it's gonna be a long ****ing year.

Well, I think it's a better starting tandem than Scandrick/Nelson.

I don't think it's like top 5 group or anything.

CB is such an expensive position I really think you need to draft and develop there. A mediocre corner costs what a top flight safety costs. We could absorb a CB contract, it's true and I'm not opposed, but conceptually I think it's better long-term cap health-wise to draft one pretty high every year and grow your own.

RunKC · 03-25-2019, 12:21 PM

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That's where the magic happens, bro.

You're going to have to come to terms with the fact that it's part of his game, it isn't going away even if you put a brick wall in front of him.

It’s not specifically outside the pocket that I’m worried.

It’s when a 300 lb DL lands on top of Pat while sacking him and ****s him up.

Then he’ll sit out a year when his shoulder is ****ed just like Luck.

RunKC · 03-25-2019, 12:28 PM

Bradbury is probably the BPA here though. McGovern and Lindstrom are available in rd 2, which I think is there plan, but I don’t see anyone really worth the pick where we are. Kind of stuck at that point.

I’m not as high on Adderley as others here though

htismaqe · 03-25-2019, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

It’s not specifically outside the pocket that I’m worried.

It’s when a 300 lb DL lands on top of Pat while sacking him and ****s him up.

Then he’ll sit out a year when his shoulder is ****ed just like Luck.

It's not like that happened a lot last year though, with not just one backup on the interior but TWO.

BryanBusby · 03-25-2019, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Well, I think it's a better starting tandem than Scandrick/Nelson.

I don't think it's like top 5 group or anything.

CB is such an expensive position I really think you need to draft and develop there. A mediocre corner costs what a top flight safety costs. We could absorb a CB contract, it's true and I'm not opposed, but conceptually I think it's better long-term cap health-wise to draft one pretty high every year and grow your own.

The CB group is still in the bottom tier. Ward is certainly better than Scandrick (a broken condom probably is too) but saying Breeland is a bonafide upgrade from Nelson is a thing that we'll have to wait and see on.

Mother****erJones · 03-25-2019, 06:29 PM

While I think Breeland is an upgrade over Nelson, it’s not like going from Scandrick to Ramsey or anything. That’s another reason why I’d go corner or safety. Just add more impact to this secondary and depth. Adding a guy like Adderley or CGJ allow honey badger to hunt like he says he’ll do.

Or adding a corner just gives them a really good young high upside corner and moves Ward and Smith back a peg. They can still develop but at their own pace and don’t have to rush them.

In58men · 03-25-2019, 09:58 PM

Bradbury isn’t a sexy pick, but it’s a very smart one. I can get behind this pick.

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