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Old 04-23-2019, 11:30 AM  
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Old 04-23-2019, 07:23 PM   #1261
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You forgot we also paid 5 times more money (if not more) over #29
Money to a 26 year old (in June) player who is proven and we have cap space.
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Old 04-23-2019, 07:23 PM   #1262
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Raush if you look at where we improved in the 3rd this year and the 2nd next year, we basically gave up a 2nd and 3rd round pick for Clark. Is that too much?

In a nutshell we gave up a 2nd and a 3rd and turned a low 3rd into a middle 3rd rounder and a likley very late second into a middle second rounder.
I'm OK on what we gave up, I'm not crazy about $105.5M with $63.5M guaranteed over 5 years.

Getting a guy in his prime ( as long as his elbows are healed ) with a win mode, using our picks for depth and developing players to take Watkins, Kelce,Fisher, Fuller,possibly Hills places over the next 5 years when contracts are coming up. With us having to pay Patrick, we are going to have some quality depth to back up starters and to replace some guys very soon.
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Old 04-23-2019, 07:23 PM   #1263
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No matter how you spin it, the Chiefs did not draft Frank Clark. If you can't figure out the difference between a "draft pick" and a "free agency acquisition", then which one of us is amazingly ****ing stupid, Jane?
I wouldn't be calling someone amazingly stupid when you think a trade is a free agent acquisition.
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Old 04-23-2019, 07:24 PM   #1264
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Yes....
So a 1 and 3 this year. That’s not that bad.

It’s not my preference but we didn’t get hosed either.
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Old 04-23-2019, 07:24 PM   #1265
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That pick would not have brought us a player of his quality in the draft. Not where we picked...
Exactly my point....
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Old 04-23-2019, 07:25 PM   #1266
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Money to a 26 year old (in June) player who is proven and we have cap space.
That's true. But it's a LOT of money.
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Old 04-23-2019, 07:27 PM   #1267
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That's true. But it's a LOT of money.
What were we going to pay Ford? Or Berry? Or Houston?
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Old 04-23-2019, 07:28 PM   #1268
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What were we going to pay Ford? Or Berry? Or Houston?
We weren't going to pay any of them anything.
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Old 04-23-2019, 07:28 PM   #1269
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Exactly my point....
AT DE. I meant at DE.
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Old 04-23-2019, 07:29 PM   #1270
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Old 04-23-2019, 07:29 PM   #1271
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We weren't going to pay any of them anything.
Okay, so what do you think you're going to pay an elite pass rusher?
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Old 04-23-2019, 07:29 PM   #1272
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We didn't sign him as a FA....sorry to have to correct you....

We traded for him
You are correct. And yet, we still did not draft him.

Maybe you can help me out with this:

All I heard for weeks, no months, was that we needed to draft well and load up on cheap good labor while Mahomes was still cheap because when it was time to pay him, it would be very hard to do that while paying out several large contracts.

Now the plan is to avoid drafting and spend like a drunken sailor on outside acquisitions, basically putting us financially where we were when we started?

CP needs medication of the psychotropic variety very badly it seems.
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So a 1 and 3 this year. That’s not that bad.

It’s not my preference but we didn’t get hosed either.
No, a 1st this year + 3rd swap netting 8 spots for KC. The 2nd is next year but KC kept the SF 2nd from Ford.
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Okay, so what do you think you're going to pay an elite pass rusher?
Ideally you draft and develop your own so you have cost controlled talent for 4-5 years.
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We're going to find out quick if Veach knows what he's doing.
He’s probably thinking what I’m thinking - win a SB this year and no one will give a shit about tomorrow...
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